Talk:Indradi Thanos

A fact from Indradi Thanos appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 1 April 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Thanos served in the army, while Thanos was a police officer?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Rlink2 (talk) 17:03, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Thanos was involved in the aftermath of the Yugoslav Wars and founded a disco club after retirement? Source: "Sari Berita Sosial-Politik: Pengiriman Konga ke Balkan". Kompas. 9 March 1996. p. 11. Retrieved 13 July 2021., Nurdiana, Titis (14 May 2020). "Tak terima ditutup, pemilik diskotek Golden Crown menggugat Pemprov DKI". Kontan. Retrieved 8 August 2021.

Created by Love and Parting (talk). Self-nominated at 00:08, 8 August 2021 (UTC).[reply]

When I think of "Thanos," I think of the Marvel character instead of your nomination. I think that the hook is misleading by saying "Thanos," as it makes people think that Thanos the Marvel character had involvement in the aftermath of the Yugoslav Wars and started a disco club when he retired. All I think you'll need to do before submitting is to replace the current link text, "Thanos," with "Indradi Thanos." (Do not take this verbatim; remove the period!) Otherwise, you're good to go! Capsulecap^{(talk • contribs)} 02:09, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Capsulecap: You'll figure out why I use Thanos instead of the full name when you click the "What links here" on this page. --Love and Parting (talk) 03:02, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Some sources seem to refer to him as "Thanos" instead of "Indradi", e.g. [1]. And besides, since this is an AFD Hook, I have several additional propositions:

ALT1: ... that Thanos owned a disco club? or ALT2: ... that Thanos hunted drug dealers? Juxlos (talk) 08:26, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Juxlos: Thanos is a family name, btw. And yes, I agree on shorter hooks. --Love and Parting (talk) 09:02, 8 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The name confusion is a good thing, our goal is to get people to actually click the articles and DYK enshrines the use of hooky hooks like this. Maury Markowitz (talk) 18:53, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Another drive-by comment: I agree. The name confusion is what makes this hooky. I like ALT1 or ALT2 for the same reason: they are punchier. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:01, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded. No one's going to really think that the Marvel character Thanos owned a disco club or hunted drug dealers. But it makes it hooky, and the people who click through will figure it out pretty quickly. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 18:34, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, we could always save this hook for April Fools' day. It's a while from now, but it'd be a good addition. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 07:25, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Love and Parting and Capsulecap: times' a-wastin'–possibly make this an april fools' day hook? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 07:53, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Theleekycauldron: You'll figure out why I use Thanos instead of the full name when you click the "What links here" on this page. --Love and Parting (talk) 17:04, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Capsulecap: any updates? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 19:31, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Theleekycauldron I think this is a good fit for an April Fool's Day. Pinging @User:Love and Parting to see if they agree. If they don't, I'll move it into prep ASAP and the admins can check it. Capsulecap ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:09, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Capsulecap: you're the reviewer, you can't move to prep—ping me and I'll do it theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 19:45, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

reping @Capsulecap: theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 19:45, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

on the Indonesian/subscription sources. Capsulecap ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:15, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Love and Parting? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:16, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@BlueMoonset: nominator is AWOL, what's the procedure? Do we need their permission to move to April Fools' Day? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:48, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

theleekycauldron, the nominator had already added the nomination to the April Fools' Day page back on August 8, so no need for permission: AFD was requested already by them. I've just moved the entry from Awaiting verification section of the AFD page to the Verified hooks one, and deleted the Approved page transclusion so it isn't promoted before then. I do think that Capsulecap needs to be clear on which of the three hooks are being approved; nominator Love and Parting did say they agreed on shorter hooks after Juklos proposed the two ALT ones. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:46, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@BlueMoonset, Theleekycauldron, and Capsulecap: (not pinging any drive-by comments) I'm planning to redo the hook by combining it with a new article. Please give your thoughts regarding this change below:

ALT3: ... that members of the Thanos family served in the army and police? Love and Parting (talk) 15:46, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't quite like the way WP:EGG plays out there—how about:
  - ALT3a: ... that Thanos served in the army, while Thanos was a police officer?
- We can add "his brother" is we have to, but i like this more, honestly. What do y'all think? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 19:44, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- @Theleekycauldron: We really don't know the relationship between the two. It just so happens that they have the last name Thanos. Love and Parting (talk) 01:51, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- And personally, ALT3a sounds less April 1-ish. Love and Parting (talk) 02:02, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - Fair, we can just leave it at ALT3a. As for why i suggested it—most people don't think of Thanos as having a family (being a movie villain), and linking "army" and "police" to Thanoses is a WP:EGG problem, and not in a quirky April Fools' way. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 02:42, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Theleekycauldron: Up to you; I hate conflicts. Love and Parting (talk) 02:51, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      - As do I :) i suppose we'll let the promoter decide. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 03:41, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]