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Next single

When will that next single be released? And when will the music video come out? 72.129.152.137 (talk) 21:38, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently no news regarding dates, however, the music video has been released. --The Guy _complain ^edits 02:23, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Third Limited/Special Edition

Aren't there three CD/DVD editions of this album. I've been seeing a new version of this album on ebay a lot. It has the same cover as the standard edition so it's neither the limited or special edition, but it comes with a DVD so it's not the standard edition. Can someone give me an update on this version. In the meantime, I will go try to find a reliable source for the new special edition. Bramblestar (ShadowClan Leader) (talk) 00:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Apparantly the third limited edition was released in the UK, and the DVD contains six live tracks from Rock AM Ring 2008 (pretty much Indestructible in Germany), and the Indestructible music video. Is this version real? Bramblestar (ShadowClan Leader) (talk) 00:22, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't sound very noteworthy to me, but I'll look into it, nonetheless. Thank you kindly for the heads-up. --The Guy _complain ^edits 22:36, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. I added this to the article, but I'll remove it until a source is found. Bramblestar (ShadowClan Leader) (talk) 23:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have seen this on amazon and on ebay, so I know it IS out there. No idea when it was released, and I have never seen it in stores, so probably doesn't belong in this article. ^TheWeak_Willed 17:50, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you are referring to the one that is the size of a DVD case it was only available online directly from www.disturbed1.com. --Jimv1983 (talk) 03:22, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Emptiness, Mine, and Condemned

I'd like to know who keeps deleting the bonus tracks "Emptiness", "Mine", and "Condemned". They ARE real. Watch their DVD for the making of Indestructible. Look on the white board with all the tracks and you'll see all three of them listed on there. Ssjgoku75x (talk) 07:25, 8 July 2009

Indeed, they're real, but they're not encyclopedic. They were never released with Indestructible, and further, never even mentioned or promoted anywhere. They do not warrant a mention in the article, and certainly not in the track list (as I said earlier, they were not released). They're more of a "trivia-like" than anything, and definitely do not warrant mention unless released. Also, just as a note, "Condemned" is "Perfect Insanity". --The Guy _complain ^edits 23:03, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They aren't really bonus tracks anyway, more like unreleased B Sides. It could even be possible that Disturbed never finished these tracks, so they may not have made it to the mixing process. ^TheWeak_Willed 11:22, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to the chart from the DVD, they did finish them (to an extent). Assuming they were already named, by Disturbed's production process, that means they were finished. But that's speculation and has no place here. We don't really know the state or status of these songs, so we can't mention them. --The Guy _complain ^edits 17:15, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But there were other songs such as "What De Fuck?" that probably weren't going to be on the record under that name. That would make a good SOAD song though... ^TheWeak_Willed 17:49, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Intro

It seems to me that the intro for this article is too long/too much in detail. Perhaps some of the info could be moved elsewhere? Just something to think about. ^TheWeak_Willed 11:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's perfectly appropriate. Leads are meant to give a quick, undetailed run-down of the article as a whole. In this respect, the lead is perfectly effective. It mentions all of the important points of the article in passing, and touches all the bases. That is the objective of a lead section. --The Guy _complain ^edits 15:09, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I'm looking at it from a computer it looks fine. Sorry about that. On my iPod, I had to scroll a bit to see the ToC. ^TheWeak_Willed 17:47, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Genre

There is a comment for the genre saying that a consensus was reached to put heavy metal as the genre. I see no such discussion and nu metal is more descriptive of the music they play. http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/groupe-groupe-Disturbed_(USA*1)-l-en.html --Jimv1983 (talk) 02:56, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was told to cite a source. I found one and now that is not good enough. http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/groupe-groupe-Disturbed_(USA*1)-l-en.html clearly says they are nu metal. --Jimv1983 (talk) 03:12, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As you said, they are nu metal, but just because their style is nu metal their album's genre is automatically nu metal. Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 03:16, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Style, Genre. Whatever they are the same thing. Where do you suggest I put NU METAL? It needs to be there somewhere! Disturbed is a nu metal band that play nu metal music released on their nu metal albums their wikipages should reflect that. --Jimv1983 (talk) 03:19, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Should go on their page, if you believe that something is something just because are the "facts", sorry those are your self thought and we cannot accept them. Tbhotch^Talk ^C. 03:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

your reference is a fan site, this is not a WP:RS. WookieInHeat (talk) 03:30, 7 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know this site, Spirit of Metal, I go often on this site ; the kind of band is widespread, it often concerns rather the kind of music a band played their debut, it does not go into details for each album. Ririss94 (talk) 20:08, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This album is NOT Nu Metal. Their early stuff is Nu Metal, this is not. It's just metal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.208.3.236 (talk) 17:21, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I found a source for hard rock. The album does have elements of hard rock.

Statik N (talk) 23:08, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edits to talk page archive

Talk:Indestructible (Disturbed album)/Archive 1 included a transclusion of User:Edgarde/Review-Christgau, which was a template in userspace; because the page has been deleted by Edgarde's request, it messed up the talk page. I restored the userspace template; as soon as I subst the page, I'll re-delete the template. I'm leaving this comment here largely because the explanation of why I'm editing a talk archive is too long for an edit summary; I'm going to link to this diff in the edit summary for substing the template. Nyttend (talk) 00:27, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

External Links

Some of the links need to be updated, though I don't know how. For instance, source four's hyperlink takes you to Rolling Stone, but the wrong article. Took about 10 seconds on Rolling Stone's internal serch engine to find the original article: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/in-the-studio-disturbeds-david-draiman-talks-indestructible-new-album-20071121 I don't know why they changed the url, but there it is. I would guess that it is possible to find similar changes for any other dead links. 136.165.220.30 (talk) 16:12, 18 October 2013 (UTC)James Nutter[reply]

Deluxe Edition edit in 2015

Can anyone back up this edit from 2015? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indestructible_(Disturbed_album)&type=revision&diff=687869199&oldid=687868755

I can't find any evidence of a 19-track release in the wild. There's one on MusicBrainz but it provides no more evidence than this one.