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Descendants

The descendants of Ikutsuhikone no Mikoto are unknown, but according to the ancient clan name dictionary called "Shinsen Shōjiroku" which was compiled by Emperor Saga in the Heian period, the descendants of Ikutsuhikone no Mikoto were priests of the Onji Shrine [ja] in Osaka and were considered the descendants of Takamimusubi.^[1]

If this is the case, it would conflict with the origin stated in the ancient texts as being born from the oath between Amaterasu and Susanoo. It is possible that Ikutsuhikone no Mikoto was originally the child of "Takamimusubi" rather than Amaterasu and Susanoo. It is also worth noting that at the time the Kojiki was compiled, the worship of Amaterasu was relatively new and other gods held a more central role in mythology. It is possible that "Takamimusubi" was one of these central gods.^[2]

Additionally, there are theories that claim that the god of Ikutsuhikone no Mikoto is the same as the god of Ikukunitama Shrine in Osaka, and that the place name of Hikone in Shiga prefecture is derived from his name.^[1]

The name "Ikutsuhikone" is composed of three parts: "iku" (活) meaning to sprout, "hiko" (日子) meaning "child of the sun" and "ne" (根) meaning root or mud. This suggests that he is a god related to agriculture, which is consistent with the many other gods born from the oath that have plant-related connotations such as "Hoo" (grain).^[1]^[2] Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (talk to the cutest Wikipedian) 03:55, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, 根 does not mean "mud". As a suffix, it imparts meanings of "alive, living, sticking up out of the ground". Consider 岩根 (iwane, "living rock").

The Wiktionary entry currently lacks the suffix sense. For that, see https://kotobank.jp/word/%E6%A0%B9-7021 (in Japanese). ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 18:12, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b ^c チバアル (2020-03-03). "活津日子根命(いくつひこねのみこと)と御利益". チバアル (in Japanese). Retrieved 2023-01-17.
^ ^a ^b "活津日子根命（イクツヒコネノミコト）". nihonsinwa.com (in Japanese). Retrieved 2023-01-16.

[:1-1] チバアル (2020-03-03). "活津日子根命(いくつひこねのみこと)と御利益". チバアル (in Japanese). Retrieved 2023-01-17.

[:0-2] "活津日子根命（イクツヒコネノミコト）". nihonsinwa.com (in Japanese). Retrieved 2023-01-16.

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