Talk:Iceland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2020

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 09:45, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

My first review of a Eurovision Song Contest article for a while! --K. Peake 09:45, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• WP:OVERLINK of Daði Freyr under songwriter(s)
• Similarly to above, you needn't link to Daði Freyr twice in prose
• "of the event." → "of the event in February 2020."
• The spread of COVID-19 across Europe is sourced in the body, but it is not as being to the rapid level
• "with RÚV subsequently announcing that Daði og Gagnamagnið would" → "with Daði og Gagnamagnið subsequently announcing that he would" per the body
• Maybe you should mention any of the notable alternate contests here?

Background

• "thirty-six times since its" → "32 times following its" per the source and MOS:NUM
• "to enable live transmission of the contest." → "to enable live transmission of it."
• "In 2018 Iceland marked" → "In 2018, Iceland marked"
• "marking Iceland's worst result" → "marking the region's worst result"
• "Iceland made its returned to" → "Iceland made its return to"
• The various methods and since 2006 parts are unsourced
• "confirmed details for the production of Söngvakeppnin 2020 to select its entry" → "affirmed details for the production of Söngvakeppnin 2020 to select the entry"

Before Eurovision

Söngvakeppnin 2020

• "Ríkisútvarpið (RÚV) once again organised Söngvakeppnin ("The Singing Competition")" → "RÚV once again organised Söngvakeppnin ("The Singing Competition")"
• "on 29 February 2020." → "on 29 February."
• "on 13 September 2019, and until 18 October 2019 interested" → "on 13 September 2019 and until 17 October, interested" per the source
• "experienced Icelandic songwriters inviting them" → "experienced Icelandic songwriters, inviting them"
• "which lyricists were able to be credited to an unlimited number..." are you sure this isn't too wordy; it reads confusingly?
• "the author(s) of the winning song" → "any authors of the winning song"
• "as part of Netflix's ambitions" → "This was part of Netflix's ambitions" since the current sentence feels like a run-on
• "its media operations and to" → "its media operations, as well as to"
• Add the release year of the film in brackets

Competing entries

• "The ten competing artists and" → "The 10 competing artists and" per MOS:NUM
• "through a special programme" → "through the special programme"
• Only the 2011 participation appears to be sourced for Matti Matt, also why is Sjonni's Friends listed as additional after his 2011 participation has already been mentioned when that is basically what it was?
• "and Elísabet has participated in" → "and Elísabet had participated in"
• Shouldn't Daði Freyr only be wikilinked to once in the table?
• Same query as above for Dimma (band)
• Pipe Stefán Hilmarsson to Sálin hans Jóns míns (band)

Shows

Semi-finals

• "acts performed, and two entries" → "acts performed and two entries"

Final

• Alexandra Rotan's representation of Norway in a previous contest is not sourced anywhere in prose
• "they could perform, and three of" → "they could perform; three of"
• "being converted to match the total number of" → "being added to the number of" per the source, unless something else specifies elsewise
• Remove pipe on Daði og Gagnamagnið
• Remove wikilink on "Eitt lag enn"

Promotion

• Img looks good!
• The viral phenomenon sentence is not sourced at all
• "semi-final the track and performance gained traction online," → "semi-final, the track and performance gained traction online"
• "in Madrid, and the" → "in Madrid and the"

At Eurovision

• The semi-final dates are not mentioned by the source
• "the top ten countries from" → "the top 10 countries from" per MOS:NUM
• Pipe Eurovision rules to Rules of the Eurovision Song Contest
• Remove wikilink on COVID-19 pandemic in Europe
• "was cancelled the producers of the contest revealed" → "was cancelled, its producers revealed"
• Change to img text to merely hosted by Eurobandið since those two are the only members

Alternative contests

• "consisting of ten singers" → "consisting of 10 singers" per MOS:NUM
• "on 14 April and emerged" → "on 14 April 2020, emerging" but this date is not sourced
• "the three qualified entries, and Iceland was" → "the three qualified entries; Iceland was"
• "in on 14 May;" → "on 14 May."
• The edition is the 2021 one, not 2011, so alter appropriately
• "Sweden's national selection," → "Sweden's national selection"
• "on 16 May, respectively." → "on 16 May 2020, respectively."
• "ten songs competing to be voted Germany's favourite song on" → "10 songs competing to be voted Germany's favourite song of"
• "and subsequently finished in" → "subsequently finishing in"
• The Roop → the Roop per MOS:THEMUSIC

After Eurovision

• "Following the contest's cancellation" → "Following the contest's cancellation,"
• "stating that he would not" → "stating he would not"
• "Iceland again or whether" → "Iceland again or"
• "Daði subsequently announced on" → "Daði Freyr subsequently announced on"
• "contest, and would again be joined by" → "contest, slated to again be joined by"
• "reaching #2 in the Netherlands, #3 in Belgium, the top 5 in" → "reaching number two in the Netherlands, number three in Belgium, the top five in" per MOS:NUM
• "the top 40 in" → "the top 40 in both"
• Remove wikilink on YouTube
• Remove wikilink on Spotify
• Pipe to Time (magazine) should only be on Time

References

• Copyvio score looks great at 12.3%!!!
• WP:OVERLINK of European Broadcasting Union on refs 3, 19, 20, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 57 and 78, also remove the work/website from 49
• Cite Facebook as publisher instead on ref 4 with the wikilink
• Wikilink Wiwibloggs on ref 5
• Dagskrárdeild RÚV → Dagskrárdeild on ref 6
• WP:OVERLINK of RÚV on refs 7, 8, 11, 15, 23, 26, 27, 34, 35, 36, 38, 56 and 77
• Cite Wiwibloggs as publisher on refs 14 and 37
• WP:OVERLINK of RÚV on ref 24 and fix MOS:QWQ issues
• WP:OVERLINK of Vísir.is on ref 25 and fix MOS:QWQ issues
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with refs 29, 31, 39, 40, 66, 69, 71, 82 and 87
• WP:OVERLINK of Vísir.is on ref 43 and cite as work/website instead
• WP:OVERLINK of European Broadcasting Union on ref 58 and cite YouTube in a via parameter with the wikilink
• WP:OVERLINK of ORF on ref 62 and fix MOS:QWQ issues
• WP:OVERLINK of ORF on ref 64
• WP:OVERLINK of Sveriges Television on refs 65 and 67
• Remove Eurovision.de from ref 70
• WP:OVERLINK of ARD on ref 72 and remove Eurovision.de, also fix MOS:QWQ issues
• Cite Ultratip as publisher instead on ref 81
• Remove or replace ref 84 per WP:RSP

External links

• Good

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; one thing I didn't mention above because it is consistent is why do you variate between Daði Freyr and Daði og Gagnamagnið, also shouldn't his surname be used after the first mention?
  • Thanks for picking this one up! I believe I've now fixed all the prose aspects of the article, and have swapped out and added new refs where appropriate. Please do take a look at these to make sure they pass your criteria for inclusion. I've left one or two things for now just to explain my thinking, typically where you consider these WP:OVERLINK.
  • For the Stefán Hilmarsson link, I've left this one per WP:NOTBROKEN, as he is known in Iceland and has performed outside of the band Sálin hans Jóns míns, so there is potential for a new article just on the individual to be created in the future (e.g. see his page on the Icelandic Wikipedia).
  • On the difference between Daði Freyr and Daði og Gagnamagnið, as these are two different concepts (Daði being the frontman of the band Gagnamagnið essentially) I have left both links for now in the lead and further down the article as I think it's important to differentiate between the individual Daði Freyr and the band of six people he performs in. Potentially a solution to this could be, as with Stefán Hilmarsson above, to add the link directly to Daði og Gagnamagnið (which redirects to a section on the Daði Freyr article).
  • For the overlinking in the competing entries table, my thinking was to have the first instance of each article in each column linked. That would cover Daði Freyr, Dimma (band), as well as a few other instances in the table would be linked on the first instance in the artist column and then again in the songwriter(s) column. So you can see that Daði Freyr Pétursson in the songwriter(s) column has been linked for Daði og Gagnamagnið's entry but not for Elísabet's.
    • Oh yes I totally get you now and should have been more observant, thanks for making me aware! I would recommend wikilinking Daði og Gagnamagnið for the group also, per MOS:LINK2SECT. --K. Peake 07:01, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
      • Done. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:19, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
  • Finally, on your point around variating between Daði Freyr and Daði og Gagnamagnið, as I said the man is different from the group, but also Pétursson is not Daði Freyr's surname, but rather his patronymic as part of the Icelandic naming system, so I've aimed to be consistent in using his first name Daði where it makes sense, and then first name and surname Daði Freyr in other instances.
    • I would say that you don't need to use his full name in the after Eurovision section, as he is both the only and previosu Daði to be mentioned by this point. --K. Peake 07:01, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
      • Yeah that's a valid point. Now done. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:19, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
  • Happy to continue to make changes as a result of any of the points above, or if you notice anything in my other changes as part of the review. Let me know what I can do to push this over the line. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 11:07, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
    • I've now also added, as suggested, some additional information to the lead, including some of the alternative contests. Please do review and suggest any changes as required.
      • These are spot on, nice job! --K. Peake 07:01, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
    • Additional points I forgot to mention above as well: Matti Matt's participation in 2011 was twofold, as he participated as a solo artist and also as part of Sjonni's Friends, hence the double mention for 2011; and the Austrian contest date of 14 May is included in the Wiwibloggs article, but I can source additional sites if needed. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 11:23, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

• ✓ Pass now, happy to have my first GA from a review for this backlog and I am happy with you for being constructive! --K. Peake 20:43, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 05:55, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that following the first performance of Iceland's planned entry for the Eurovision Song Contest 2020, "Think About Things", Russell Crowe tweeted his approval with the word "Song."? Source: Twitter / The Independent: "Perhaps more surprising is an endorsement from Oscar-winner Russell Crowe, giving the video a thumbs up and outing himself as a Eurovision stan by linking to a particularly niche Dutch ESC fansite."
  • ALT1: ... that although the Eurovision Song Contest 2020 was cancelled, Iceland's planned entry for that year was chosen as the alternative winner in several countries, including Sweden and Australia? Source: Iceland wins Sweden’s Eurovision show "Sveriges 12:a" / Australia names Iceland their Eurovision 2020 winner…as Montaigne performs ESC staging
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Daisy Rockwell

Improved to Good Article status by Sims2aholic8 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:55, 6 June 2022 (UTC).

• The article was recently promoted to GA, long enough, referenced, neutral and no copyvio obvious. AGF sources in foreign language. The hooks are sourced and interesting, but I like ALT1 more than ALT0. The images used in the article are free. QPQ done. Good to go. Corachow (talk) 12:52, 6 June 2022 (UTC)