Talk:Ibrahim Aqil (Hezbollah)

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"Capturing Israel's Galilee region"

EnfantDeLaVille added "In 2023, Aqil was reported to be the commander of the Redwan Force, a special unit tasked with capturing Israel's Galilee region." The sentence has two sources at the end:

this article doesn't appear to mention Aqil at all, which means its usage here appears to be WP:SYNTH. It does say "« La conquête de la Galilée » est la raison d’être de cette unité depuis sa création par Imad Moughnieh, après la guerre de 2006." The words "the conquest of Galilee" are put in quotes, meaning the source is not using it in its own voice, which means we should not use it in our voice either. Further, its not clear at all that this is referring to "capturing" Galilee, which is certainly an WP:EXCEPTIONAL claim. The source would need to say a bit more about it.
Not sure if this source is reliable. According to the About us, it is run by an IDF colonel, which makes it not WP:INDEPENDENT.

VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 23:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC) VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 23:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ibrahim Aqil (Hezbollah) → Ibrahim Aqil – The Hezbollah figure is the obvious WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for the name. This is certainly true in terms of news coverage after his assassination today, but also in terms of long-term significance. The other person with this name, a Jordanian taekwondo athlete, is only a minor figure in his sport who appeared at one Olympics. The Hezbollah commander was allegedly a key figure in the 1983 US embassy bombing in Beirut and 1983 Beirut barracks bombings with a $7 million bounty on him by the U.S. State Department. — Goszei (talk) 04:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have just started an RM at the article for the taekwondo athlete with evidence that his COMMONNAME is actually "Ibrahim Kamal". — Goszei (talk) 04:19, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: I created a disambiguation page for "Ibrahim Aqil" because articles using the name Ibrahim Kamal were being redirected to the name "Ibrahim Aqil", not "Ibrahim_Aqil (taekwondo)". That article was moved to the name in an undiscussed move on the strength of Arabic sources, despite most English sources using the name Ibrahim Kamal. Per WP:ESTABLISHED usage in English sources should override usage in other languages. If WP:ENGLISH is used, there should not be a need for disambiguation using parenthetical disambiguators. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 10:55, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Ibrahim Aqil (militant) - when we have more than one person of the same name we shoudl use the disambiguation page as the main redirect, otherwise this can lead to all sort of confusion. Secondly, the disambiguator should be the profession (militant) not the organisation (Hezbollah). Abcmaxx (talk) 11:04, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don’t think there’s any need to put the word militant in the title of his article. He is clearly the primary Ibrahim Aqil. MeirKovner (talk) 17:04, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support move to Ibrahim Aqil (militant) per Abcmaxx Prodrummer619 (talk) 12:49, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support when Ibrahim Aqil (taekwondo) is moved. Scuba 02:25, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]