Talk:Iambakey Okuk

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I don't know how to make articles shorter or add grammar, but I can add links. Electric Ask me a question, get answered in a ZAP! 09:40, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

POV dispute

The neutrality of this article is questionable, especially with regard to the section “Battles won and lost”, the description in the main text as “colourful and controversial”. The overall structure and inclination seems to be deifying this guy. Input welcome. MxWondrous (talk) 20:17, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

November 2021

Regarding the multiple issues template, note the following:

The tone and style of this article is questionable as statements are generally on the verge of being considered “partisan”, and appear to be deifying the subject, and appears to be in the “story-telling” format.
Readers expect an encyclopaedic article on the subject, about his career, life, image, electoral performance, etc. Describing how his actions make him “great” or something and portraying an image in the article doesn’t help with the objectives of this platform.
The article appears to be “promoting” the subject, might contain personal feelings, or make an original argument, instead of relying on something already published, and contains structural and grammatical errors.
A combination of the above issues leads me to dispute the neutrality of this article, reply to this aspect in the post above and not here. COI of previous contributors need to be looked into as well, and their edit history. The article seems to somehow portray the subject as Papua New Guinea’s “great leader” of eternal yesterday.

MxWondrous (talk) 06:26, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Adding to all of this, for future confused editors: each individual heading has its own lead describing the rest of the section. I suppose if anyone were so inclined, you could get a reasonably clear article out of all of this by just chopping off everything following the first subheading under each individual main heading. I didn't do that, because it would also have removed most of the footnotes (and I only really realized what was going on about halfway through). But I'm not sure doing something drastic like that would necessarily make this much worse, and it's possible it would make it better. -- asilvering (talk) 02:07, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]