Talk:I would rather cry in a BMW

This article was nominated for deletion on 5 January 2012 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

why the article is worth keeping

Thanks for your deletion request. I have removed the message. The page is a work in progress, and is by no means perfect. But the symbolic value of the phrase has led to mass discussions in Chinese media, both television and online. Specifically, columns have been written specifically about the phrase by a large number of Chinese newspapers, delving into much deep analysis about the phrase, such as seen here: [1], here: [2], and here: [3] (a clever rebuttal saying "I would rather laugh on a bicycle"). I will have more time later to translate this analysis into English, which will give the article a more 'notable' feel.

The phrase's notability clearly extends beyond the realm of the show alone - it has spurred discussions about a wide range of social issues, and as mentioned in the article, is an emblematic, symbolic representation of much larger issues. Isolating the content to the show itself would not do justice to such symbolism, nor would it be appropriate to flood the show's article on analysis that is tangential. That is my case for keeping this article where it is. Colipon+(Talk) 17:10, 5 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think I'd be interested in translating it to portuguese. I noticed there are no corresponding articles in other languages, and I'm wondering specifically why there isn't a corresponding article on the chinese wikipedia, being that it is about Chinese culture. Is the chinese wikipedia more stringent in regards to what is considered "encyclopedic"?--Kiyarrlls-talk 17:27, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I think it is because the editors haven't gotten to it yet. The Chinese WP is a much smaller project. Colipon+(Talk) 19:25, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Another mention of it

[4]

"There is a quote: ‘I would rather cry in a BMW than smile on a bike,'" says Jinhua Zhao, an urban planning professor at the University of British Columbia who's conducting a study of cycling in Beijing. He’s found that bicycle use in Beijing has dropped from about 60 percent in 1986 to 17 percent in 2010. At the same time, car use has grown 15 percent a year for the last ten years.

--JohnBlackburne^words_deeds 02:51, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Very interesting, I treid to contexualize it in the article. Feel free to help out :) Colipon+(Talk) 03:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did look at it but my Chinese is too limited to have come across it in Chinese sources so I was worried about adding it out of context.--JohnBlackburne^words_deeds 04:47, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gold digger blue link

So, the world Gold digger is blue-linked currently to greed. I think that's wrong. User:Woohookitty in good faith changed the blue link to greed as it was previously linking to the disambiguation page still currently at Gold digger. The previous blue link is unchanged from the very first version of this article by User:Colipon. The article that most closely seems to adequately serve as more information regarding the term or phenomenon referenced by "gold digger" is Hypergamy, however it is very India-centric term and doesn't really discuss the way it is viewed as perjorative, and that solution thus is perhaps not satisfactory. The solution I prefer is to take the blue-link out alltogether. That is what I will procede to do, leaving this here for discussion.--User:Dwarf Kirlston - talk 00:30, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So I searched a bit more, dug, as it were and I found a couple other things in the region of this topic. Marriage of convenience and Sham marriage show examples of "interested" marriages, but marriages for financial gain are notioriously absent. The article on marriage has a section regarding this general phenomenon, but has only two lines Marriage#Social status, there is also an "economic considerations" in the marriage article and an Economics of marriage, neither covering the issue.

The problem is that I think this is a real phenomenon and it is not merely that Ma is "greed|y" but that romantic relationship is seen as a way to achieve social mobility with marriage, or at the very least expensive gifts, as in a sugar daddy or Enjo kōsai situation.

The sugar daddy article by the way slightly-lighter-blue links to wiktionary that does have the definition.

--User:Dwarf Kirlston - talk 01:14, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]