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La 1ra version siempre es la mejor y la 1ra es del mejor grupo de rock en el mundo... Queen

Guitar Hero

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All of the songs on that game were cover versions themselves, the line stating that Joan Jett's version was actually used needs to be ammended. Angryafghan 14:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Joan Jett's song

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I've known who has sung this song for the past 25 years, didn't know/didn't care that Britney Spears sang it also. But the point that I'm trying to make is looking towards the bottom of the article page, there is a big box providing information towards Britney's Studio Album, Other Albums, Singles, and Related Topics. What does this info have anything to do with Joan Jett's song? If info is to be provided, it should be toward Jett, not Spears.Rushman71 20:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC) Considering that Miss Spears version was just one of many cover versions and one that did not perform very well, it seems inapproprate to have a shrine dedicated to her if the message is simply that she performed a cover version that only her fans seem to love. All that information about the charting and performances are over done for this page, on a Spears fan page it might be relevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.137.150.35 (talk) 22:14, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

someone has removed the point about Steve Oliver's collection of cover versions on more than one occasion and it's not fair! This is a page about 'I Love Rock And Roll', and this is a fact about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.71.55 (talk) 17:35, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. It is not Joan Jett's song, she covered it. It's an Arrows song, written in 1975 by two members of that band (Alan Merrill and Jake Hooker) as their 4th single release on RAK records in England. The original release was on May 9th, 1975. The recording in '75 secured the Arrows their own weekly TV series in 1976 after appearing with "I Love Rock N Roll" on the Muriel Young produced ITV show "45" in the UK in mid 1975. Since Joan Jett's is a cover and Britney Spears version is also a cover I don't see the problem. The Arrows publishing company RAK still publish the song today.
One of the most strangest erroneous myths in the music industry is that Joan Jett was the original artist of "I Love Rock N Roll". In fact she bought the Arrows 45 rpm single and covered their song after seeing the band perform the song on TV. Vanwalker (talk) 23:26, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Title Question

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Is there a reason why there are two single-quotes around the "n" in the title of the article, but everywhere within the article there is only one single-quote on the "n"? should the title be fixed to be like the rest? (I'm asking here because I'm not sure.) Wikipedian314 (talk) 09:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Apologetix Parody Cover Left Out

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What's the deal with the Apologetix cover of the Joan Jett song, called "I Love Apostle Paul", constantly being deleted from the list of covers? (VicGeorge2K9 (talk) 13:14, 6 August 2009 (UTC))[reply]

It isn't a Joan Jett song, it's an Arrows song from 1975, written and released by the Arrows on RAK records in 1975, covered by Joan Jett. Without the Arrows we wouldn't be having this discussion. I'm happy to impart this important information to you. Vanwalker (talk) 00:07, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

She'll Never Be Me

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I'd like to see some documentation that "She'll Never Be Me" has ever been officially released, let along on a Jordanian version of the "I Love Rock 'N' Roll" single.Heidijo236 (talk) 19:23, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use of notable cover version single covers

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Since the images, File:Joan Jett ILRNR.jpg and File:BritneySpears-RockRoll.jpg File:Britney Rock n Roll.png, have been removed by one editor citing WP:NFCC and reverted by three other editors also citing WP:NFCC, I am starting a discussion here so that the images are not deleted simply for being orphaned.

The single covers for the Joan Jett and the Britney Spears' cover versions pass the points of WP:NFCC. WP:NFCC#3 is met because the single covers are used for identification their respective versions and the Arrows single cover cannot convey equivalent significant information and/or identification of either Joan Jett or Britney Spears' versions. WP:NFCC#8 is met because the single covers are used for identification and the image increases readers' understanding and not having it would be detrimental to the understanding of either Joan Jett or Britney Spears' versions. The single covers passes the first example of acceptable use of fair images at WP:NFCI: "Cover art: Cover art from various items, for visual identification only in the context of critical commentary of that item (not for identification without critical commentary)."

The current consensus for single covers in section infoboxes to represent notable cover versions are that they pass WP:NFCC and WP:NFCI. Since WP:SONGCOVER says notable cover versions should be covered in the article about the song and not have its own article, but if they had their own articles, the images would be acceptable there, so they are acceptable in the sections of the song article. Without these notable cover versions the song would not be notable enough to have its own article. These single covers are not alternate covers for the Arrows cover, it is the primary cover for the Joan Jett and Britney Spears' versions and should be treated as such. If it is felt that the images should still be removed than the images should be taken to Wikipedia:Files for deletion instead of simply removed from the article. Aspects (talk) 21:15, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I realized I missed the Alex Gaudino and Jason Rooney cover version image, File:I Love Rock 'n' Roll.jpg, and that image will also be added back. Aspects (talk) 03:47, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that we abuse single covers in general. The "identification" argument is utter nonsense: people identify songs by the way they sound, not by a postage-stamp sized image that shows up in iTunes or Windows Media Player. I agree that Werieth's logic is a little wonky, but I have a hard time with these articles that basically become an infinite parade of infoboxes. The purpose of the article is to discuss the song, not to provide a picture gallery.—Kww(talk) 04:04, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The most serious issue is the recent deletion of the image of the Arrows original 1975 a-side RAK records release on the "I Love Rock N Roll" page. The band released the original version and wrote the song. They are more than integral to the history of the song. They created the work. The image belongs there. It had been there many months with no problems. It was deleted recently and there has been a war on the page about it all this week. I have recently contacted the Managing Director of RAK and she is totally supportive of the image being on the page and she says it violates no copyright as far as she's concerned, contrary to what one wiki editor has stated. Wikipedia will be hearing from RAK soon.
Wikipedia is meant to contain real information. Not ads for various acts who have covered the Arrows song. In fact, I think Alex Gaudino and Jason Rooney's version is a bootleg and a deal was never made with RAK publishing, violating copyright, yet an image of Gaudino and Rooney's bootleg has an icon displayed and the Arrows image has been taken down by a relentless wiki editor last week.
The most important image that should be on wiki for "I Love Rock N Roll" is the original RAK records 45 rpm vinyl single version by the Arrows. They created the work. That the image was taken down is absurd. RAK publishing approve of the image and their General Manager says it violates no copyright whatsoever. Furthermore, the Arrows 45 single release image contains more relevant information than the images of the Jett or Spears versions. The Arrows 45 image contains release date, composers listed, the record label and publisher (RAK) is displayed, producer Mickie Most noted. It has more detail than any other image on the page. But it was taken down.
This seems more like a page that has turned into a corporate advertising war than a wikipedia information page. Vanwalker (talk) 00:01, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

“Recently”

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Note to others: Please either find a timeless replacement for this phrase or delete its sentence. Cup o’ Java (talk • edits) 02:27, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

RfC: Is the use of a record label allowed in an article on the record?

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When a record was not issued in a picture sleeve, many articles use a photo of the record label instead. Is this something that is allowed under our NFCC policies? Some editors seem to suggest that a label is not acceptable, so I am looking for clarification. Can we assume that an image of a label is just as valid as an image of a sleeve, under "fair use"?

A few examples of pages that use record labels:

Thanks, Robman94 (talk) 05:02, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

i want a korean rock n roll lyrics — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.198.64.46 (talk) 00:28, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I Love Rock 'n' Roll vs I Love Rock 'n Roll

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The album covers clearly show "I Love Rock 'n Roll". Not 'n' but 'n.

Shouldn't this be changed?

Kameejl (Talk) 14:52, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion

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Flawed mix

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Jett version: Not a single mentioning of the drastic and very clearly audible flaw in the final mix? In that guitar solo, the guitar volume is so abruptly turned down underneath Jett's voice it is ridiculous. The whole industry back then laughed/sneered behind backs about the fail of this unprofessional mixing engineer at the console. 2003:C0:DF04:8000:A17A:86F:AFA:3196 (talk) 18:04, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arrows or The Arrows?

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I changed two instances of "the Arrows" to just "Arrows" (one in the short description), because the were referred to as just "Arrows" in the remainder of the article, including the infobox. FlightTime promptly reverted me. The article should be consistent: either "Arrows" or "The Arrows" throughout. 2001:BB6:47ED:FA58:4DB1:F0CF:99DB:EDF8 (talk) 12:05, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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