Talk:I Lost a Friend

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Date	Process	Result
October 31, 2020	Good article nominee	Not listed
November 18, 2020	Good article nominee	Listed
March 7, 2021	Good topic candidate	Promoted
October 13, 2022	Good topic removal candidate	Demoted
Current status: Good article

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GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:I Lost a Friend/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lirim.Z (talk · contribs) 16:19, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing this soon.--Lirim | Talk 16:19, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

It was released by OYOY as the second single from the EP on May 3, 2019. It was released as the second single from the EP on May 3, 2019, through OYOY.
the covers need a short alt descriptions (MOS:ALT)
Not something you need to do but there is Template:Non-free use rationale album cover which automatically fills all boxes with the required information
Finneas O'Connell under songwriters

Background and development

this paragraph is a little bit chaotic, which needs to be sorted better
I would swap the song's creation information with the release info
Finneas has written... Finneas wrote
He had a friendship that had lasted for years and that it had fallen apart, but broadly This is basically said 4 times in the same paragraph. You should remove this, and put the WBUR quote in it's place
In an interview with WBUR, Finneas explains the explained that the
The cover art for "I Lost a Friend" was created by graphic designer Luke. Finneas sent a demo of the song to Luke who does all Finneas' cover art for his singles. The cover art features a junkyard and a beat-up car. The songs cover art was created by graphic designer Luke and features a beat-up car in a junkyard.

Critical reception

received mainly positive reviews "was met with mainly positive reviews"
Writing for NME, Will Richards was less positive with the song, saying it "starts as a run-of-the-mill, earnest singer-songwriter tune", but later said it "soars towards the end of stabs of distorted bass".[13] He compared it to Billie Eilish's album When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go?. Writing for NME, Will Richards was less positive with the song, saying it "starts as a run-of-the-mill, earnest singer-songwriter tune, but soars towards the end of stabs of distorted bass", comparing it to Billie Eilish's When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go?.

Music video and promotion

received positive reviews "was met withpositive reviews"

References

Refs cover the assertions made in this article
Ref 1: Needs a date, Itunes is not a music publisher, it's a distributor |publisher=OYOY |via=Apple Music

Not done Check "Let's Fall in Love for the Night"

Ref 4: Genius is a website |website=Genius

Not done Check "Idontwannabeyouanymore"

Ref 5: Replace the (-) with a (–) (MOS:DASH)
Ref 6: [[WBUR-FM|WBUR]] Pls don't link to redirects
Ref 13: Link to NME
Ref 18: MOS:Caps, ref needs a publisher

Other

Copy-violation: Very high The genius ref is very high, but because it cites all the refs you also cite in the article; I see no issue

Outcome

On hold I grant you 7 days to fix these minor issues.--Lirim | Talk 08:59, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

'User talk:Lirim.Z, thanks a lot for the review. I have fixed all the issues. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 22:46, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- Sorry didn't have this on my watchlist. Short comment: Why is "Finneas wrote the song during the afternoon in his parents' house in the summer of 2018." the last sentence of Background and development? --Lirim | Talk 06:37, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Lirim.Z, Hi, sorry for the long response. I have decided to retract the nomination, I have been having beef with other editors and I'm thinking they would probably complain about this being GA. I do really appreciate you taking time out of your day to review the article! The Ultimate Boss (talk) 22:28, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

✗ Fail per user wish --Lirim | Talk 02:06, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:I Lost a Friend/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 11:39, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good Article review progress box

Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I believe I owe you one after you co-nominated "Lift Yourself", so I will give back by reviewing this! --K. Peake 11:39, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

Infobox looks good!
Add mention of Finneas writing and producing the song as the second sentence since the lead is quite short currently; it should be written out in the body anyway because otherwise the credits in the infobox are WP:OR and a personnel section is not needed for one performer
Target single to Single (music); this will be the third sentence
"Described as an electropop ballad," → "An electropop ballad," with the target
"childhood friend, and regretting and wondering" → "childhood friend and regretting doing so, as well as wondering" since this is more accurate
"A music video for the track was" → "An accompanying music video was" with the wikilink
The body does not call the field "overgrown" or anything familiar
Swap live performance and remix order
"A remix by" → "A remix of the song by"

Background and development

Target WBUR to WBUR-FM
"Finneas explains the song" → "Finneas explained the song"
"He says" → "He said,"
"He continues to say it's about" → "He continued by saying the song is about"
"he had reunited with again." → "with whom he had reunited again."
"going to hear it," → "going to hear the song"
"to get his opinion on the song." → "to get his opinion."
"The songs cover art" → "The song's cover art"
Writing in 2018 sentence should come directly after the above instead
Digital download and streaming part should come before the second single status
Target single to Single (music)
"on Finneas' debut extended play (EP), → "from Finneas' debut EP"
Remove wikilink on Blood Harmony and add the release year of the album in brackets
Move the remix mention to music video and promotion after the live performances in a new para

Not done

"the song during the afternoon in" → "the song during an afternoon when in"
Add a sentence saying the writing and production credits

Composition and lyrics

"described the genre of the track as an" → "described "I Lost a Friend" as an"
Target ballad to Sentimental ballad
"features minimalist of instrumentation of" → "features minimalist instrumentation that consists of"
Remove wikilinks on piano and drums
"an aggressive beat and" → "an aggressive beat, and"
"later explained in an interview with Pitchfork saying:" → "later explained the production in an interview with Pitchfork, saying:"
"a "talk-through," and wanted to" → "a "talk-through", which meant he tried to"
"He showcases this in the pre-chorus." → "Finneas showcases the process in the pre-chorus:" with the wikilink per MOS:LINK2SECT
[11] should solely be at the end of the para
"discusses the pre-chorus" → "discussed the pre-chorus"
"and people to stay" → "and others to stay"
"fights," He further says," → "fights", and also said,"

Critical reception

"met with mainly positive reviews." → "met with mainly positive reviews from music critics" with the target
"on your tracks."" → "on your tracks"."
Will Richards' review belongs after Brittany Spanos' because the former is the most critical review here so should come after the others that are clearly more positive
"Writing for NME, Will Richards" → "For NME, Will Richards"
"less positive with the song," → "less positive towards the song,"
"distorted bass", comparing it to Billie Eilish's" → "distorted bass," comparing "I Lost a Friend" to Billie Eilish's debut studio album" with the wikilink
Add release year of the album in brackets
Move the remix praise to the remix's new para in the succeeding section to this one
"was also praised by critics." → "was praised by critics."
"and that it shifts" → "and stated that the remix shifts"
"noted the original featured a" → "noted that while the original features a"

Music video and promotion

Mention in the opening sentence that it was released to Finneas' YouTube channel
"the sunset lowers and the darkness" → "the sunset lowers and darkness"
"As he continues to" → "While Finneas continues to"
"met with positive reviews" → "met with positive reviews from critics."
"its one take", and that "images" → "its one take", noting the choreography for "images"
"Finneas toured throughout" → "He toured across"
"he performed from the EP during the tour." → "Finneas performed from the EP on the tour."
"In October of the same year," → "That same month,"
"performed on a keyboard," → "performed while sat at a keyboard,"
"covered in blue and neon lights showcasing" → "being covered in blue as neon lights showcased" with the target
"in hushed vocals.[20] He briefly wanders off the stage before" → "in hushed vocals, and briefly wandered off the stage during the performance before"

References

Copyvio score looks too high at 43.5%; fix the WBUR ref
Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
Target WBUR to WBUR-FM on ref 1
Target Billboard to Billboard (magazine) on ref 2

Not done

WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on ref 7
Middle name should be in firstname parameter for ref 10

Final comments and verdict

On hold until all the issues are fixed, was nice to do a review for you once again! --K. Peake 15:21, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Peake, thank you so much for the review! It's always a pleasure working with you! I have addressed all of your concerns. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 18:44, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Ultimate Boss Thank you, but the not done template should only be marked on things that are really not done; though why are you against moving the remix info? --K. Peake 21:24, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I feel it would be better in the background. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 01:58, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Ultimate Boss ✓ Pass now, good job on solving the issues but I still did some brief copyediting! --K. Peake 09:03, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]