Talk:I Believe in You (Kylie Minogue song)

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the I Believe in You (Kylie Minogue song) article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

I Believe in You (Kylie Minogue song) was one of the Music good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
March 26, 2006	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
April 14, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
June 17, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
June 1, 2009	Good article reassessment	Kept
July 12, 2013	Good article reassessment	Delisted
Current status: Delisted good article

Australia: Music Low‑importance

	Australia portal I Believe in You (Kylie Minogue song) is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project page.AustraliaWikipedia:WikiProject AustraliaTemplate:WikiProject AustraliaAustralia articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Australian music (assessed as Low-importance).
	Need help improving this article? Ask a Librarian^{What's this?} at the National Library of Australia.
	The Wikimedia Australia chapter can be contacted via email to helpwikimedia.org.au for non-editorial assistance.

Kylie Minogue Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Kylie Minogue, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Kylie Minogue on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Kylie MinogueWikipedia:WikiProject Kylie MinogueTemplate:WikiProject Kylie MinogueKylie Minogue articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Pop music Low‑importance

	Pop music portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Pop music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to pop music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Pop musicWikipedia:WikiProject Pop musicTemplate:WikiProject Pop musicPop music articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Songs

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Songs, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of songs on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SongsWikipedia:WikiProject SongsTemplate:WikiProject Songssong articles

Women in Music Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women in Music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Women in music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women in MusicWikipedia:WikiProject Women in MusicTemplate:WikiProject Women in MusicWomen in music articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Music video

Can someone help expand the music video section? Underneath-it-All 23:10, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I may be wrong, but don't two versions of the music video (European and North American) exist? —Eternal Equinox | talk 02:42, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure. I've never heard anything, but I'll look into it to see. Underneath-it-All 04:13, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the video on mtv.com, and it was the same one described in the article. -- getcrunk juice ^contribs 22:08, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Really? I've seen a version of the video with Minogue standing in the centre of a white rectangular platform; she is wearing a white dress of some sort. I saw this version on MuchMoreMusic — perhaps it is the Canadian edition that is different? —Eternal Equinox | talk 02:18, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An alternate version of the music video isn't mentioned anywhere on any of Minogue's official sites or in articles about the video. The video that was played in Canada on the BPM network was like the one described in the article. I don't think I ever saw the video of MuchMoreMusic. Underneath-it-All 04:03, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose I was incorrect then. —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:39, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sound sample

The sound sample should be placed towards the bottom of the article. —Eternal Equinox | talk 01:43, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It should? -- getcrunk juice ^contribs 22:28, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well it shouldn't be placed towards the top in the lead section. That would be unusual. Is there an attempt to bring this article to featured status? —Eternal Equinox | talk 01:42, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's fine to be placed in the "composition" section because that section discusses the style of the song.. I think it's a good idea to have the sample close. And if the sample were to be placed in its own section, that would create extra section clutter in the TOC. About bringing this article to featured status... I'm not planning on nominating this soon.. but I will continue to work on it -- getcrunk juice ^contribs 16:46, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated this article for FA status! -- getcrunk juice ^contribs 00:51, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Side info bar

Anyone good at nav bars? This one isn't consistent with the adjacent singles pages (e.g. footer font size) Tertiary7 00:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is actually with the other articles: the template designated for song pages is Template:Infobox Single -- getcrunk juice ^contribs 00:53, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. More work to do... Tertiary7 19:36, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Brought the infobox into line with the single template. Now the word sizes look better. Underneath-it-All 18:19, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Dab?

When I saw this listed on FAC, I expected to find an article on the Bob Dylan song here (see Slow Train Coming). Given that the dab header already lists 2 other choices not including Dylan, shouldn't there be either a dab page here or a pointer to I Believe in You (disambiguation) instead of the current header? --kingboyk 13:33, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think so, because this is a common song title.. I will move this page to I Believe in You (Kylie Minogue song) and create a disambig. -- getcrunk juice ^contribs 02:30, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA

I passed this nomination. Page easily meets requirements. Address the objections to the last FAC and renominate it! savidan^{(talk) (e@)} 10:08, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Genre

Shouldn't it be electro or electronic or tech trance or something else electronic in the Genre section of the infobox? 60.230.2.29 02:27, 10 November 2007 (UTC)A Guest[reply]

Image copyright problem with Image:KylieMinogueIBelieveInYou.ogg

The image Image:KylieMinogueIBelieveInYou.ogg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check

That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
That this article is linked to from the image description page.

This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --06:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:I Believe in You (Kylie Minogue song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

GA Sweeps: Pass

As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I went through the article and made various changes, please look them over. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. Altogether the article is well-written and is still in great shape after its passing in 2006. Continue to improve the article making sure all new information is properly sourced and neutral. It would be beneficial to further expand the lead to better summarize the article and to update the access dates. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 06:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Re-review

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:I Believe in You (Kylie Minogue song)/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

After a quick skim of the article, it says several issues.

Both the live performances section and the Formats and track listings have no sources at all.
It appears to be using a fansite for several sources (kylie.co.uk). The site mentions it has no connections at all with Kylie Minouge, so I don't believe it should be sourced. Currently, five statements use it as a source.
Sources from getyourgo.ie, the kylie official website, and virgin.net are all dead or re-directs.

These leaves nearly half the article with either improper sources, dead links or not references at all. For these reasons, I think it should be de-listed. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:07, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's been a good amount of time an no work has been done to improve the article outside really minor maintenance. I'm going to delist this now. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:28, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 2 external links on I Believe in You (Kylie Minogue song). Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 00:15, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on I Believe in You (Kylie Minogue song). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 05:45, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on I Believe in You (Kylie Minogue song). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 23:49, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 6 external links on I Believe in You (Kylie Minogue song). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 22:32, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 3 external links on I Believe in You (Kylie Minogue song). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20160303172203/http://dancemusic.about.com/od/reviews/fr/KylieUltimate.htm to http://dancemusic.about.com/od/reviews/fr/KylieUltimate.htm
Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.rt100.ro/
Added archive https://www.webcitation.org/6DjFZVSEA?url=http://www.top40.nl/pdf/top100/top100-2005.pdf to http://www.top40.nl/pdf/top100/top100-2005.pdf

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 15:24, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]