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A fact from I Am Zlatan Ibrahimović appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 January 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the immigrant-background narration of I Am Zlatan Ibrahimović has been compared to that of Philip Roth's novel Portnoy's Complaint?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/January. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/I am Zlatan Ibrahimović.

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 16:41, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the autobiography I Am Zlatan Ibrahimović sold its first full edition of 100,000 copies within a few hours in Sweden? Source: [1] "Och bara några timmar efter att den släppts till allmänheten har 100 000 exemplar sålts – hela den första upplagan". - " And just a few hours after it was released to the public, 100,000 copies have been sold - the entire first edition."
- ALT1: ... that reviewer Simon Kuper found parallels between the immigrant-background narrators of the autobiography I Am Zlatan Ibrahimović and Philip Roth's novel Portnoy's Complaint? Source: [2] Practically whole article.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KTSC (TV)
- Comment: Open for more hooks, it's a pretty fascinating book.

Created by Unknown Temptation (talk). Self-nominated at 17:43, 5 January 2022 (UTC).[reply]

I like the gist of ALT1, but would suggest a slight rewording for brevity:

ALT2: ... that Simon Kuper found parallels between the immigrant-background narrators of I Am Zlatan Ibrahimović and Philip Roth's novel Portnoy's Complaint?
ALT2b: ... that the immigrant-background narration of I Am Zlatan Ibrahimović has been compared to that of Philip Roth's novel Portnoy's Complaint?

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Reference taken IGF. Awaiting nom's thoughts on alt hooks. Article name, hook etc. updated to reflect MOS:CAPS. MIDI (talk) 11:44, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MIDI, your brevity is better than mine! I think ALT2 is the best. And sorry for all the technical stuff that had to be done with moving the page, something stupid in my mind told me that all "am, is, are" was lower case, even in titles. Unknown Temptation (talk) 14:55, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing to worry about, no apology needed! Happy to proceed with ALT2

assuming good faith with paywalled reference. MIDI (talk) 15:33, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

MIDI I'm also not an FT subscriber but I managed to access the full reference. I read it the first day in research, then it was paywalled the next day when I wanted to cite it, but for some reason accessing it on the same search engine but incognito gets you past it. Just worth a try if you're interested. Unknown Temptation (talk) 13:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Managed to verify – appropriate passage is "Zlatan's book strangely resembles an earlier immigrant's tale: Portnoy's Complaint [...] Each man's story illuminates the other [and] each illuminates the increasingly typical yet rarely heard immigrant experience." As well as that, the FT article refers to the narration of each piece, so that's a good parallel with the hook here. All good

MIDI (talk) 10:31, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@MIDI and Unkown Temptation: i noticed that Unkown Temptation added a paragraph about quote fabrication on the part of the biographer—that seems like a pretty interesting hook to me. Is that a path you might want to go down? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 01:02, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

oops, theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 01:03, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Theleekycauldron I think this is one of those things which seems scandalous when you see it in the headline but may be par for the course in celebrity biographies, particularly of people who are still working like Zlatan and whom, with the greatest of respect to an incredible man, does not work in the field of words. Lagercrantz's explanation that he had to craft an interview into a book seems sufficient to me. I included the controversy because the controversy definitely existed, even if it has a good explanation. But thank you for the input. Unknown Temptation (talk) 15:13, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promoter's comment to @Unknown Temptation: gotcha, works for me! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/she) 16:41, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2b to T:DYK/P1