Talk:IPCC Fifth Assessment Report/citation

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To ensure clear, correct, and consistent citation of the IPCC reports a canonical citation format has been developed which is the preferred style in all climate change articles. This page contains the full references and chapter details for the reports in the

IPCC Fifth Assessment Report: Climate Change 2013 (AR5)

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• The canonical format has been revised to use templates. (Not yet available for WG2 and WG3.)
• Listed below are templates for short and full citations for each chapter.
• The short citations (short cites) are for use in the body of the article (either in-line in the text, or in a note [between <ref>...</ref> pairs]).
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  • each chapter referenced.
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• To avoid cluttering the article text and to ease maintenance, the full citations should be included in a separate section. This is usually called "References".
• Any {{reflist}} templates in a "References" section should be moved to a "Notes" section.

WG1: The Physical Science Basis

All this is being revised. Not yet ready for use.

• [Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis (full report)]

{{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}

Full citation

*{{Citation |author= IPCC AR5 WG1 |authorlink= IPCC |year= 2013 |title= Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis |series= Contribution of Working Group I to the Fifth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change |editor1-first= T. F. |editor1-last= Stocker |editor2-first= D . |editor2-last= Qin |editor3-first= G.-K. |editor3-last= Plattner |editor4-first= M. |editor4-last= Tignor |editor5-first= S. K. |editor5-last= Allen |editor6-first= J. |editor6-last= Boschung |editor7-first= A. |editor7-last= Nauels |editor8-first= Y. |editor8-last= Xia |editor9-first= V. |editor9-last= Bex |editor10-first= P. M.|editor10-last= Midgley |publisher= Cambridge University Press |place= Cambridge, United Kingdom and New York, NY, USA |isbn= 978-1-107-66182-0 |url= }}

• [Summary for Policymakers] -- old form.

{{Harvnb|IPPC WG1 SPM|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

Full citation
*{{Citation |ref= CITEREFIPPC WG1 SPM2013 |chapter= Summary for Policymakers |chapter-url= |author= IPCC AR5 WG1 |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

AR5 WG1 Summary for Policymakers
*{{Cite book | ref= {{harvid|IPCC AR5 WG1 Summary for Policymakers|2013}} |chapter= Summary for Policymakers |chapter-url= |author= IPCC |author-link= IPCC |year= 2013 |title= {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}} |pages= }}

In-line citation: {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1 Summary for Policymakers|2013|p=}}.

• [Technical Summary]

{{Harvnb|IPPC WG1 TS|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |ref= CITEREFIPPC WG1 TS2013 |chapter= Technical Summary |chapter-url= |first1= T. F. |last1= Stocker |first2= D. |last2= Qin |first3= G.-K. |last3= Plattner |first4= L. V. |last4= Alexander |first5= S. K. |last5= Allen |first6= N. L. |last6= Bindoff |first7= F.-M. |last7= Bréon |first8= J. A. |last8= Church |first9= U. |last9= Cubasch |first10= S. |last10= Emori |first11= P. |last11= Forster |first12= P. |last12= Friedlingstein |first13= N. |last13= Gillett |first14= J. M. |last14= Gregory |first15= D. L. |last15= Hartmann |first16= E. |last16= Jansen |first17= B. |last17= Kirtman |first18= R. |last18= Knutti |first19= K. |last19= Krishna Kumar |first20= P. |last20= Lemke |first21= J. |last21= Marotzke |first22= V. |last22= Masson-Delmotte |first23= G. A. |last23= Meehl |first24= I. I. |last24= Mokhov |first25= S. |last25= Piao |first26= V. |last26= Ramaswamy |first27= D. |last27= Randall |first28= M. |last28= Rhein |first29= M. |last29= Rojas |first30= C. |last30= Sabine |first31= D. |last31= Shindell |first32= L. D. |last32= Talley |first33= D. G. |last33= Vaughan |first34= S.-P. |last34= Xie |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Chapter 1: Introduction]

{{Harvnb|Cubasch|Wuebbles|Chen|Facchini|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |chapter= Chapter 1: Introduction |chapter-url= |first1= U. |last1= Cubasch |first3= D. |last3= Wuebbles |first4= D. |last4= Chen |first5= M. C. |last5= Facchini |first6= D. |last6= Frame |first7= N. |last7= Mahowald |first8= J.-G. |last8= Winther |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Chapter 2: Observations: Atmosphere and Surface]

{{Harvnb|Hartmann|Klein Tank|Rusticucci|Alexander|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |chapter= Chapter 2: Observations: Atmosphere and Surface |chapter-url= |first1= D. L. |last1= Hartmann |first2= A. M. G. |last2= Klein Tank |first3= M. |last3= Rusticucci |first4= L. V. |last4= Alexander |first5= S. |last5= Brönnimann |first6= Y. |last6= Charabi |first7= F. J. |last7= Dentener |first8= E. J. |last8= Dlugokencky |first9= D. R. |last9= Easterling |first10= A. |last10= Kaplan |first11= B. J. |last11= Soden |first12= P. W. |last12= Thorne |first13= M. |last13= Wild |first14= P. M. |last14= Zhai |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Chapter 3: Observations: Ocean]

{{Harvnb|Rhein|Rintoul|Aoki|Campos|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |chapter= Chapter 3: Observations: Ocean |chapter-url= |first1= M. |last1= Rhein |first2= S. R. |last2= Rintoul |first3= S. |last3= Aoki |first4= E. |last4= Campos |first5= D. |last5= Chambers |first6= R. A. |last6= Feely |first7= S. |last7= Gulev |first8= G. C. |last8= Johnson |first9= S. A. |last9= Josey |first10= A. |last10= Kostianoy |first11= C. |last11= Mauritzen |first12= D. |last12= Roemmich |first13= L. D. |last13= Talley |first14= F. |last14= Wang |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Chapter 4: Observations: Cryosphere]

{{Harvnb|Vaughan|Comison|Allison|Carrasco|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |chapter= Chapter 4: Observations: Cryosphere |chapter-url= |first1= D. G. |last1= Vaughan |first2= J. C. |last2= Comiso |first3= I. |last3= Allison |first4= J. |last4= Carrasco |first5= G. |last5= Kaser |first6= R. |last6= Kwok |first7= P. |last7= Mote |first8= T. |last8= Murray |first9= F. |last9= Paul |first10= J. |last10= Ren |first11= E. |last11= Rignot |first12= O. |last12= Solomina |first13= K. |last13= Steffen |first14= T. |last14= Zhang |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Chapter 5: Information from Paleoclimate Archives]

{{Harvnb|Masson-Delmotte|Schulz|Abe-Ouchi|Beer|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |chapter= Chapter 5: Information from Paleoclimate Archives |chapter-url= |first1= V. |last1= Masson-Delmotte |first2= M. |last2= Schulz |first3= A. |last3= Abe-Ouchi |first4= J. |last4= Beer |first5= A. |last5= Ganopolski |first6= J. F. |last6= González Rouco |first7= E. |last7= Jansen |first8= K. |last8= Lambeck |first9= J. |last9= Luterbacher |first10= T. |last10= Naish |first11= T. |last11= Osborn |first12= B. |last12= Otto-Bliesner |first13= T. |last13= Quinn |first14= R. |last14= Ramesh |first15= M. |last15= Rojas |first16= X. |last16= Shao |first17= A. |last17= Timmermann |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Chapter 6: Carbon and Other Biogeochemical Cycles]

{{Harvnb|Ciais|Sabine|Bala|Bopp|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |chapter= Chapter 6: Carbon and Other Biogeochemical Cycles |chapter-url= |first1= P. |last1= Ciais |first2= C. |last2= Sabine |first3= G. |last3= Bala |first4= L. |last4= Bopp |first5= V. |last5= Brovkin |first6= J. |last6= Canadell |first7= A. |last7= Chhabra |first8= R. |last8= DeFries |first9= J. |last9= Galloway |first10= M. |last10= Heimann |first11= C. |last11= Jones |first12= C. |last12= Le Quéré |first13= R. B. |last13= Myneni |first14= S. |last14= Piao |first16= P. |last16= Thornton |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Chapterr 7: Clouds and Aerosols]

{{Harvnb|Boucher|Randall|Artaxo|Bretherton|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |chapter= Chapter 7: Clouds and Aerosols |chapter-url= |first1= O. |last1= Boucher |first2= D. |last2= Randall |first3= P. |last3= Artaxo |first4= C. |last4= Bretherton |first5= G. |last5= Feingold |first6= P. |last6= Forster |first7= V.-M. |last7= Kerminen |first8= Y. |last8= Kondo |first9= H. |last9= Liao |first10= U. |last10= Lohmann |first11= P. |last11= Rasch |first12= S. K. |last12= Satheesh |first13= S. |last13= Sherwood |first14= B. |last14= Stevens |first15= X. Y. |last15= Zhang |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Chapter 8: Anthropogenic and Natural Radiative Forcing]

{{Harvnb|Myhre|Shindell|Bréon|Collins|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |chapter= Chapter 8: Anthropogenic and Natural Radiative Forcing |chapter-url= |first1= G. |last1= Myhre |first2= D. |last2= Shindell |first3= F.-M. |last3= Bréon |first4= W. |last4= Collins |first5= J. |last5= Fuglestvedt |first6= J. |last6= Huang |first7= D. |last7= Koch |first8= J.-F. |last8= Lamarque |first9= D. |last9= Lee |first10= B. |last10= Mendoza |first11= T. |last11= Nakajima |first12= A. |last12= Robock |first13= G. |last13= Stephens |first14= T. |last14= Takemura |first16= H. |last16= Zhang |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Chapter 9: Evaluation of Climate Models]

{{Harvnb|Flato|Marotzke|Abiodun|Braconnot|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |chapter= Chapter 9: Evaluation of Climate Models |chapter-url= |first1= G. |last1= Flato |first2= J. |last2= Marotzke |first3= B. |last3= Abiodun |first4= P. |last4= Braconnot |first5= S. C. |last5= Chou |first6= W. |last6= Collins |first7= P. |last7= Cox |first8= F. |last8= Driouech |first9= S. |last9= Emori |first10= V. |last10= Eyring |first11= C. |last11= Forest |first12= P. |last12= Gleckler |fisrt13= E. |last13= Guilyardi |first14= C. |last14= Jakob |first15= V. |last15= Kattsov |first16= C. |last16= Reason |first17= M. |last17= Rummukainen |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Chapter 10: Detection and Attribution of Climate Change: from Global to Regional]

{{Harvnb|Bindoff|Stott|AchutaRao|Allen|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |chapter= Chapter 10: Detection and Attribution of Climate Change: from Global to Regional |chapter-url= |first1= N. L. |last1= Bindoff |first2= P. A. |last2= Stott |first3= K. M. |last3= AchutaRao |first4= M. R. |last4= Allen |first5= N. |last5= Gillett |first6= D. |last6= Gutzler |first7= K. |last7= Hansingo |first8= G. |last8= Hegerl |first9= Y. |last9= Hu |first10= S. |last10= Jain |first11= I. I. |last11= Mokhov |first12= J. |last12= Overland |first13= J. |last13= Perlwitz |first14= R. |last14= Sebbari |first15= X. |last15= Zhang |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Chapter 11: Near-term Climate Change: Projections and Predictability]

{{Harvnb|Kirtman|Power|Adedoyin|Boer|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |chapter= Chapter 11: Near-term Climate Change: Projections and Predictability |chapter-url= |first1= B. |last1= Kirtman |first2= S. |last2= Power |first3= J. A. |last3= Adedoyin |first4= G. J. |last4= Boer |first5= R. |last5= Bojariu |first6= I. |last6= Camilloni |first7= F. J. |last7= Doblas-Reyes |first8= A. M. |last8= Fiore |first9= M. |last9= Kimoto |first10= G. A. |last10= Meehl |first11= M. |last11= Prather |first12= A. |last12= Sarr |first13= C. |last13= Schär |first14= R. |last14= Sutton |first15= G. J. |last15= van Oldenborgh |first16= G. |last16= Vecchi |first17= H. J. |last17= Wang |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Chapter 12: Long-term Climate Change: Projections, Commitments and Irreversibility]

{{Harvnb|Collins|Knuttin|Arblaster|Dufresne|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |chapter= Chapter 12: Long-term Climate Change: Projections, Commitments and Irreversibility |chapter-url= |first1= M. |last1= Collins |first2= R. |last2= Knutti |first3= J. M. |last3= Arblaster |first4= J.-L. |last4= Dufresne |first5= T. |last5= Fichefet |first6= P. |last6= Friedlingstein |first7= X. |last7= Gao |first8= W. J. |last8= Gutowski |first9= T. |last9= Johns |first10= G. |last10= Krinner |first11= M. |last11= Shongwe |first12= C. |last12= Tebaldi |first13= A. J. |last13= Weaver |first14= M. |last14= Wehner |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Chapter 13: Sea Level Change]

{{Harvnb|Church|Clark|Cazenave|Gregory|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |chapter= Chapter 13: Sea Level Change |chapter-url= |first1= J. A. |last1= Church |first2= P. U. |last2= Clark |first3= A. |last3= Cazenave |first4= J. M. |last4= Gregory |first5= S. |last5= Jevrejeva |first6= A. |last6= Levermann |first7= M. A. |last7= Merrifield |first8= G. A. |last8= Milne |first9= R. S. |last9= Nerem |first10= P. D. |last10= Nunn |first11= A. J. |last11= Payne |first12= W. T. |last12= Pfeffer |first13= D. |last13= Stammer |first14= A. S. |last14= Unnikrishnan |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Chapter14: Climate Phenomena and their Relevance for Future Regional Climate Change]

{{Harvnb|Christensen|Krishna Kumar|Aldrian|An|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |chapter= Chapter 14: Climate Phenomena and their Relevance for Future Regional Climate Change |chapter-url= |first1= J. H. |last1= Christensen |first2= K. |last2= Krishna Kumar |first3= E. |last3= Aldrian |first4= S.-I. |last4= An |first5= I. F. A. |last5= Cavalcanti |first6= M. |last6= de Castro |first7= W. |last7= Dong |first8= P. |last8= Goswami |first9= A. |last9= Hall |first10= J. K. |last10= Kanyanga |first11= A. |last11= Kitoh |first12= J. |last12= Kossin |first13= N.-C. |last13= Lau |first14= J. |last14= Renwick |first15= D. |last15= Stephenson |first16= S.-P. |last16= Xie |first17= T. |last17= Zhou |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Annex I: Atlas of Global and Regional Climate Projections]

{{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1 Annex I|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |ref= CITEREFIPCC AR5 WG1 Annex I2013 |chapter= Annex I: Atlas of Global and Regional Climate Projections |chapter-url= |author= IPCC AR5 WG1 |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Annex II: Climate System Scenario Tables ]

{{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1 Annex II|2013}} [http:xxx Section xxx]

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*{{Citation |ref= CITEREFIPCC AR5 WG1 Annex II2013 |chapter= Annex II: Climate System Scenario Tables |chapter-url= |author= IPCC AR5 WG1 |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

• [Annex III: Glossary]

{{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1 Glossary|2013}} [http:xxx term]

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*{{Citation |ref= CITEREFIPCC AR5 WG1 Glossary2013 |chapter= Annex III: Glossary |chapter-url= |author= IPCC AR5 WG1 |year= 2013 }} in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG1|2013}}.

WG2: Impacts

AR5 WG2 chapter details: lead authors, urls, and headers.

Climate Change 2014: Impacts, Adaptation, and Vulnerability [ AR5 WG2 Table of Contents] Link to this report's full reference with: in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG2|2014}}. If using a {{citation}} template: use the "chapter-url" and "chapter" parameters, remove brackets. Don't forget to remove extraneous linebreaks. * * * INCOMPLETE and SUBJECT TO CHANGE * * * IPCC, Summary for Policymakers] ??? Technical Summary] Suarez ''et al.'', Chapter 1: Point of departure] Jones ''et al.'', Chapter 2: Foundations for decisionmaking] Jimenez ''et al.'', Chapter 3: Freshwater resources] Scholes ''et al.'', Chapter 4: Terrestrial and inland water systems] Losada ''et al.'', Chapter 5: Coastal systems and low-lying areas] Karl ''et al.'', Chapter 6: Ocean systems] Porter ''et al.'', Chapter 7: Food production systems and food security] Revi ''et al.'', Chapter 8: Urban Areas] Dasgupta ''et al.'', Chapter 9: Rural Areas] Arent ''et al.'', Chapter 10: Key economic sectors and services] Colwell ''et al.'', Chapter 11: Human health] Adger ''et al.'', Chapter 12: Human security] Olsson ''et al.'', Chapter 13: Livelihoods and poverty] Huq ''et al.'', Chapter 14: Adaptation needs and options] Mimura ''et al.'', Chapter 15: Adaptation planning and implementation] Klein ''et al.'', Chapter 16: Adaptation opportunities, constraints, and limits] Chambwera ''et al.'', Chapter 17: Economics of adaptation] Cramer ''et al.'', Chapter 18: Detection and attribution of observed impacts] Campos ''et al.'', Chapter 19: Emergent risks and key vulnerabilities] Denton ''et al.'', Chapter 20: Climate-resilient pathways: adaptation, mitigation, and sustainable development] Hewitson ''et al.'', Chapter 21: Regional context] Niang ''et al.'', Chapter 22: Africa] Kovats ''et al.'', Chapter 23: Europe] Hijioka ''et al.'', Chapter 24: Asia] Kitching ''et al.'', Chapter 25: Australasia] Lankao ''et al.'', Chapter 26: North America] Magrin ''et al.'', Chapter 27: Central and South America] Anisimov ''et al.'', Chapter 28: Polar Regions] McLean ''et al.'', Chapter 29: Small Islands] Cai ''et al.'', Chapter 30: Open Oceans] IPCC Appendix I: Glossary]

WG3: Mitigation

AR5 WG3 chapter details: lead authors, urls, and headers.

Climate Change 2014: Mitigation of Climate Change [ AR5 WG3 Table of Contents] Link to this report's full reference with: in {{Harvnb|IPCC AR5 WG3|2014}}. If using a {{citation}} template: use the "chapter-url" and "chapter" parameters, remove brackets. Don't forget to remove extraneous linebreaks. '''* * * INCOMPLETE and SUBJECT TO CHANGE * * *''' IPCC, Summary for Policy Makers] ??? Technical Summary] Victor ''et al.'', Chapter 1: Introduction] Gupta ''et al.'', Chapter 2: Integrated Risk and Uncertainty Assessment of Climate Change Response Policies] Khor ''et al.'', Chapter 3: Social, Economic and Ethical Concepts and Methods] Dasgupta ''et al.'', Chapter 4: Sustainable Development and Equity] Gerlagh ''et al.'', Chapter 5: Drivers, Trends and Mitigation] Clarke ''et al.'', Chapter 6: Assessing Transformation Pathways] Adegbulugbe ''et al.'', Chapter 7: Energy Systems] Schaeffer ''et al.'', Chapter 8: Transport] Lucon ''et al.'', Chapter 9: Buildings] Fischedick ''et al.'', Chapter 10: Industry] Bustamante ''et al.'', Chapter 11: Agriculture, Forestry and Other Land Uses (AFOLU)] Dhakal ''et al.'', Chapter 12: Human Settlements, Infrastructure and Spatial Planning] Stavins ''et al.'', Chapter 13: International Cooperation: Agreements and Instruments] Agrawala ''et al.'', Chapter 14: Regional Development and Cooperation] Somanathan ''et al.'', Chapter 15: National and Sub-National Policies and Institutions] Gupta ''et al.'', Chapter 16: Cross-cutting Investment and Finance Issues]

See also: SAR, TAR, AR4.

The final report seems to be now online, though it is not entirely clear to me if the current template applies (see authors for instance). It would help me to see 1 "full" example. Report landing page. prokaryotes (talk) 01:36, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

EXAMPLES PLEASE!

This is great..... but it would be even greater with an "EXAMPLES" section. Something like

Include short cites in the article body....... Blah blah blah blah blah blah.{{Short cite}} Blah blab blah.....

Using paired REF codes is optional.

If you do you get.... and that's good/bad because.....

If you don't you get.... and that's good/bad because.....

Include long cite in the _____ .......  ?????? ?????? something not sure what ????????

If you use a short cite in the body and forget to include long one as described above you get this.....and that's good/bad because.....

If instead you just use the long one in the body you get.... and that's good/bad because.....

Also explain how we can include long cites in a references section without creating a conflict with the references section that generates for all the other cites (the ones in paired editing codes). Are those "reference sections" different things that use the same label? How does the server tell them apart? NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 14:06, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, yes, yes. Further developments here are on hold till I can get resolution at Help talk:Citation Style_1 ("Missing or empty title") on using the method I developed, or if everything has to be changed. I would like to drop the "missing or empty title" message, but Trappist refuses, saying I should use {{Harvc}}, to which I object on various grounds. Care to join us? ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 23:08, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

NewsAndEventsGuy, Dave souza, William M. Connolley, prokaryotes, and anyone else that might be interested in this stuff: my interest in improving the IPCC citations is flatlining, due to this inability to get a proper tool (or get the proper tool fixed). If you could give me some support this would be the proper time. Otherwise I may just junk this. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 18:40, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Hmm? Is this a technical issue about reference changes? prokaryotes (talk) 08:13, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm not certain how to answer that. What precisely do you consider "technical"? At one level the sticking points (for both of us) can be taken as simply "don't like it" (and therefore non-technical?), but at a deeper level we both have considerations which are sublimely technical. (Which is why I am reluctant to open an RfC, as the ensuing comments would likely be unsatisfactorily superficial.) ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 19:34, 7 May 2015 (UTC)