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Aggregate Capacity

What's that? --The9ull (talk) 14:34, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Chipsets

May be need add column "Standard Version" ? --89.189.191.10 (talk) 14:15, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wireless range

Wireless n introduced in addition to improved Mb/s throughput, an increase in wireless range measured in feet/meters. Is it too soon to say if the wireless range for this new standard (802.11ac) will also see an increase (in both indoor and outdoor) wireless range? Are there any estimates released yet? Please include this info if and when it becomes available. Thx. 67.182.237.57 (talk) 21:37, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-12-broadcom-ship-80211ac-products.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.91.250.42 (talk) 04:16, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Very interested as well why this article doesn't mention feet, ft, or range (for example, clicking "Find" has no useful results)! Above article is unfortunately from 2011. Googling 802.11ac (which by the way means ac stuck together as a single standard not meaning a and also does c...), indoor range, ..says .11ac was 170ft and .11n is 230ft.. Are ft, feet and range left out of this article because test conditions are so subjective, signal bouncing off walls, being absorbed, interference etc? -From Peter {a.k.a. Vid2vid (talk | contribs)} 06:45, 24 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Number of Channels

I see no information on this page about the total number of channels, maybe it's there and I missed it. if the number of channels is lower than that of n, then there could be trouble with densely-packed areas like in apartment complexes, where you can have 10 routers in one building or more, all of which are in close proximity (with ac this will be exacerbated with advertised "more range").

So to apartment-dwellers or even with people in neighborhoods, you want to know the maximum number of channels and the router's range in ft.

Jmichae3 (talk) 04:16, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Linksys joined ac yesterday

On June 27th, 2012, Linksys launched its 802.11ac-router, see http://4g-portal.com/first-linksys-smart-wi-fi-router-802-11ac?goback=.gde_129221_member_128721264. This may be of your interest. 83.87.140.201 (talk) 18:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Products

The Broadcom BCM4360 is entitled to be used for Routers. The MacBook Air however uses this chip. This classification might thus be wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.130.28.183 (talk) 11:26, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Intel 7260 as chipset

I have tentatively added the Intel 7260 as a chipset. Strictly speaking, it's not a chipset, it's an adapter. However, the chipset used in the adapter is Intel's own silicon, so it's using a chipset that isn't listed.Conquerist (talk) 14:31, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

multi-station WLAN

Cannot google anything on the topic of 'multi-station WLAN'. Can anybody either elaborate on this or remove the confusing statement? GrAndrew (talk) 14:37, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wave 2

What is wave 2? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gayboi69 (talk • contribs) 13:37, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wave 2 is a marketing term for 802.11ac products that implement features which were not available when the first wave of 802.11ac products was released, either because they were not finalized in the draft at the time or because they were not market ready. Those features are: 4 spatial streams, 160 MHz channels, MU-MIMO. See [1] or [2]. Conquerist (talk) 17:10, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Should we include a description of wave 1 and wave 2 into the article? — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 14:40, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Might as well. Some articles [3] even speak of an official wave 2 certification program from the Wi-Fi Alliance, which would make wave 2 more official and less of a marketing term, but I couldn't find any mention on their public website. It would fit best in the products section, but it would also make sense to list it right next to the list of features ("New technologies" and "Mandatory and optional features"). Or we could convert the list of features into a table with columns "mandatory", "wave 1", and "wave 2". Conquerist (talk) 16:24, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To me, adding a few sentences at the end of IEEE 802.11ac § Mandatory and optional features section might be the best option to describe wave 1 and wave 2. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 16:33, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The wave 1 / wave 2 PHY rates seem to be incorrect (the reference quoted mentions what is specified here; the further original Cisco reference no longer exists). Basic PHY rate for 'wave 1' is 433 Mbps, times three antennas (which may or may not be a definitive reference for 'wave 1', but I saw it elsewhere). This gives the mentioned 1.3Gbps. For wave 2, the bandwidth is doubled from 80 to 160MHz (basic PHY rate of 867 Mbps) while the number of antennas increases to 4, for 3.5 Gbps total. I cannot reconstruct the mentioned 2.34 Gbps PHY rate. It's not 3 antennas x 867, nor anything like 4x433... 84.30.30.54 (talk) 10:00, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are all products notable?

Currently there is information in the products section that doesn't seem notable. The first paragraph of the router section has the first announced and the first to market, but the second paragraph lists three manufacturers. As of 8/14 almost every company has an 802.11ac router. Why do these three merit special attention. Similarly, the Samsung Note 3 entry says "Subsequent Devices Include 802.11ac." So why are the other Samsung entries notable?

I'm not a wikipedian, so I'm not going to edit. But I would appreciate it if someone who knows the culture takes a look. 50.185.67.106 (talk) 03:44, 20 August 2014 (UTC) aNewbie[reply]

"Type"

Would someone who knows these things please add some explanatory description for the "Advertised" section, in particular what "Type" means? I came to wp looking for a description/definition of "AC1750" and am none the wiser for having found this page. TIA! 68.100.229.3 (talk) 16:18, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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No mention of OFDM

No mention of Orthogonal frequency division multiplexing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.98.155.235 (talk) 12:19, 23 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]