Talk:Hy Cohen

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Review: August 30, 2021. (Reviewed version).

A news item involving Hy Cohen was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 7 February 2021.

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A fact from Hy Cohen appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 31 March 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Hy Cohen's (pictured) seven-game-long Major League Baseball career ended before his baseball card could be produced?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hy Cohen.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by TJMSmith (talk) 14:32, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hy Cohen in 1954

... that Hy Cohen's (pictured) seven-game-long Major League Baseball career ended before his baseball card could be produced? Source: The Big Book of Jewish Baseball
- ALT1:... that Hy Cohen (pictured) was signed by the Toronto Maple Leafs to drum up support for the team from the city's sizable Jewish population, but ended up pitching only five games? Source: The Big Book of Jewish Baseball; Baseball-Reference.com (five games)

Reviewed: None But One
Comment: Please save for March 31, the day before the start of the MLB season (since the day of is April Fools' Day). Request to IAR the "six weeks in advance" rule (exactly six weeks and five days from now).

5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:43, 12 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Y Article is long enough (6354 characters), has just been 5x expanded from 1246 to 6354 characters (5 x 1246 = 6230), and article is within policy. Article is eligible as per WP:DYKRULES 1d, as it has appeared on Recent Deaths, but not ITN as a bolded hook
Y Hooks are short enough, interesting, and well cited (verification for ALT1 is available here)
Y Image is public domain in US (the country of origin), used in the article, and looks good at low resolution
Y QPQ done
Overall, this nomination passes, congratulations. Good to go for March 31- once bot moves it approved area, I will put it into special occasion area for March 31. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:34, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hy Cohen/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 21:26, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to be popping a look over at this! — Ghost River 21:26, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lede

There's a lot of repetition in the lede para. Might I suggest something like: "an American former professional baseball relief pitcher who played in seven games for the Chicago Cubs of Major League Baseball (MLB) in 1955. He batted and threw right-handed."

Reworded. "Professional" is unnecessary, and "former" is not used for deceased players (only for ones who are retired). —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On that note, delink Chicago Cubs in the second paragraph

Done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Early life

Start the third sentence with "Both of his parents were Polish immigrants:"

Done. I tacked it onto the end of the second sentence (which was only four words long) – hope that's alright. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"For the New York Giants of Major League Baseball (MLB)."

Added. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No comma needed after "High School", and you can get rid of the mid-sentence ref since it also appears at the end

Done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Professional career

Minor leagues

WL innings pitched

Linked. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"3 wins in the playoffs" → "three wins in the playoffs" per MOS:NUMBERS

Done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"9-game stint" → "nine-game stint" per MOS:NUMBERS

Done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"and he finished second in walks plus hits per inning pitched (WHIP) (1.051) and seventh in wins (16)." → "and he finished second with a 1.051 walks plus hits per inning pitched (WHIP) as well as seventh in wins (16)."

Done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Chicago Cubs (1955)

Since it's the only team he played for and he only played in one season, I think you can drop the (1955) in the header; that's more to serve as a guide for players who had 20-year careers for 8 different clubs or something like that

Agreed – removed. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"over 7 innings" → "over seven innings" per MOS:NUMBERS

Done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please mention his major league career final record

Already mentioned in the infobox. And 0–0 is not significant enough to be included in the prose. —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Return to minor leagues

You don't need to mention "until 1958" in the first sentence, as that's mentioned later, and it's more logical to put at the end

Removed and merged with second sentence (since the opening sentence of just "Cohen went back to the minor leagues" would read awkwardly). —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No comma needed after "five games for the club"

Removed. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:48, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Later life

Awkward flow here – I would move everythingi up to "Hall of Fame" into the first paragraph, since that all concerns his educational experience, and drop the square dancing thing, which is tangential at best

Fixed. —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"six days after his birthday. He was 90," → "six days after his 90th birthday."

Done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"and had been diagnosed with COVID-19 during the COVID-19 pandemic in California several months before his death along with suffering physical issues." → "He had contracted the COVID-19 virus months before his ultimate death, and had continued to suffer health issues from the virus even after his supposed recovery."

Done (reworded slightly). —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

Good

General comments

Only one image is present; it's public domain and obviously relevant to the article
No concerns with stability, the last edit was on May 6
Copyvio score looks good, the only reason one is at 11.5% is because of proper nouns

Some MOS stuff, as well as prose that I think can be tightened or moved around. Putting on hold to allow nominator to address comments. — Ghost River 21:42, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@GhostRiver: thanks very much for the review! I hope I've addressed your comments satisfactorily. —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bloom6132 Looks good now, happy to pass! — Ghost River 12:11, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]