Talk:Hutt Valley campaign

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British victory

The infobox proclaims a British victory is that really the best interpretation? Does the infobox actaully need an interpretation? Stuartyeates (talk) 23:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In this conflict the British were victorious. Not only did they finally untangle the question of genuine land ownership but perhaps more importantly they discovered the duplicitous nature of Te Rauaparaha. By the time of the Hutt Valley Campaign the government was starting to realise that Maori were not as politically naive as they had initially thought. Te Rauparaha had been let off the hook over the Wairau massacre as the British simply did not have the military resouces and the hard evidence to capture him. When the intercepted his letters to his cousin his real position was finally revealed. He was captured in short order in a surprise attack on july 23 by the British. He was imprisoned for 18 months but his health was very poor. He spent the last 8 months living in Auckland. The threat to Hutt Valley had passed and he was released. He died on 27 Nov 1849. Claudia June 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.58.184.129 (talk) 22:48, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would have thought that this was only a British military success at the time. The subsequent decisions of the Waitangi Tribunal would suggest that Maori were in the right, legally. To characterise the British as being victorious implies a non-neutral point of view and is now somewhat offensive in light of subsequent Treaty Settlements between Maori and the Crown. While the British militarily overcame Maori resistance, the outcome of the treaty negotiations show that the Crown now accepts that the British were in the wrong in the first place. The battle may have been won in the field, but subsequently lost at the negotiating table. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 23:17, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The extent of the British victory appears to be the forced eviction of Maori inhabitants from a contested area of land and the infobox should say just that. BlackCab (TALK) 02:46, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]