Talk:Hunt the Wumpus/GA1

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Reviewer: CelestialWeevil (talk · contribs) 18:49, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I saw this title and thought it was the cutest thing, and then I saw it was a text-based thing and I got even more excited. I'll do this ASAP. CelestialWeevil ^(talk) 18:49, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As per Template:Infobox_video_game#Syntax_guide, I think "Adventure game" in genres should be shortened to "Adventure"

...the player moves through a series of connected caves, arranged in a dodecahedron, hunting a monster named the Wumpus. – There is some ambiguity in this language. I think it is clearer as "...the player moves through a series of connected caves, arranged in a dodecahedron, as they hunt a monster named the Wumpus"

The turn-based game has the player trying to avoid fatal bottomless pits and "super bats" that will move them around the cave system, in order to fire... – I think "that will move them around the cave system" damages readibility; "in order to fire" is too far removed from "the player". But if you feel this is a necessary detail, you could divide it with a semicolon after "cave system" and change "in order to fire" to "the goal is to fire"

...1975, and republished... – This is an unnecessary comma since the second part isn't an independent clause. This also applies in the very next sentence (the first sentence of the second lead paragraph)

Maybe it would be useful to explain what "crooked arrows" are, or why they're crooked. I see that it is explained later in the development section, but this makes reading it a little confusing.

If the Wumpus moves to the player's location, then they lose – I would remove "then" here; it's unnecessary and has been said several times already

I'm a little troubled by just two citations, one per each paragraph. But this might just because I have a tendency to overcite things. Because you're a more experienced editor than me, I'll leave it up to your judgment.

Done all of the above section. We can get away with 1 cite per paragraph here because not only is the entire paragraph cited to that 1 source (making it technically correct to just put 1 at the end of the paragraph), but unlike the sources we use on articles on modern games, the citation is to a complete description of the game alongside the (sort of) human-readable source code. --Pres N 06:04, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

where the player moved through points connected through some other type of topology – There are some inconsistent tenses throughout. Here, I think 'moved' should be 'moves' as per WP:PLOTPRESENT.

...making it in his opinion a hit game – I think "making it, in his opinion, a hit" is smoother

In the second paragraph, Creative Computing is refered to as "its" (...in its October 1975 issue...) and the PCC as "their" (...in their book...). Because they're both collectives, I think either singular or plural should be adhered to. And since Yob is American, I would go with singular.

My attention is again drawn to the sparseness of citations in the first paragrpah. Three paragraphs in a row from one source is a little unnerving.

This section done; did not convert to present tense as this is not a plot section but presented from the perspective of the developer prior to any players playing, so it's all "would move", etc. (though 'moved' was wrong either way). I knew the cites are odd, but again, it's a multi-page source where the sole developer of the game walks through his development process/timeline, the entire game is described, and the source code of the game is given. If you really hate it I can pull in some of the other cites that themselves reference that cite[1] here, but it would be cosmetic. --Pres N 03:52, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

...newsletter issue as they discussed... – This sentence has several more plural collectives

Hunt the Wumpus has been cited as an early example of a survival horror game; the book Vampires and Zombies claims that Hunt the Wumpus was an early example of the genre, while the paper "Restless dreams in Silent Hill" states that "from a historical perspective the genre's roots lie in Hunt the Wumpus" – Three instances of the complete title in one sentence. I would remove the second instance and replace it with "it"

...as the player hunts rather than is hunted by the Wumpus and nothing in the game... – Comma before "and", please, as they're independent clauses.

This section done; I think I've gotten so used to using 'they/their' as a singular gender-neutral pronoun that it's bled over into non-person'd collectives, where it's clearly wrong. --Pres N 03:52, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 16's tile is in sentence case, where most of the others are in title case. As per Help:Citation Style 1#Titles and chapters, please use either title or sentence case consistently.

This section done. On one hand, ref16's title is actually sentence case, and that's standard for that journal/area (re: your cite help link). On the other hand, it's really annoying to read, so I changed it anyway. Did not uncapitalize 'the'; the actual title of the novella is "The Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow", so "The" should be capitalized as it's referencing the title of the work, not used as an article. --Pres N 03:56, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PresN: Neat article! It's mostly good, but I'm going to put this on hold until some of the things above are address. Great job! CelestialWeevil ^(talk) 15:01, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@CelestialWeevil: Completed or responded to all points; sorry for the delay. Thanks for reviewing! --Pres N 03:58, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@PresN: Great job as per usual, and I always like to learn new things myself on these reviews. It passes! CelestialWeevil ^(talk) 04:28, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]