Talk:Hungarian mythology

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References

This paged was recently marked as unsourced, so let's start hunting some English sources, as most of the page seems to be translated from Hungarian books and grandparent's tales. The http://www.mythome.org/Ancient.html page has some information, but some links are broken. Is it feasible to insert references to the Internet Archive? --V. Szabolcs 08:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of things are missing - I will try to collect some data on folk tales, animals (griffin is missing!!) etc. We also need a section to compare links from Hungarian language Abdulka 13:59, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Plural

It actually looks silly to have written manos (elves) instead of manok (elves) since the English translation is written in parentheses. --Stacey Doljack Borsody 17:30, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick look at the article again... a standard needs to be applied. It switches between using the Hungarian term in parentheses with the English translation in parentheses in numerous places. --Stacey Doljack Borsody 17:33, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with content

In the section Persons, creatures, gods, under Fene the text states, that it was also a place. Does this statement has a source? As far as I know, the term "Menj a fenébe!" used to mean "Fene should get you!". Compare "Menj a francba!", where "franc" means the so called "French disease": syphilis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.95.17.15 (talk) 18:38, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources, sources, sources...

The problem with the article is that there is no recognized source for Hungarian pagan cosmogony or a pantheon at all (as the Edda or the Ilias and Odyssey are in other cultures). All the ideas and names are thus either deductions from Hungarian folklore ("táltos", "lidérc", "sárkány"), from popular expressions ("fene"), theories - often quite spurious - of the pagan origins of Christian religious expressions ("Boldogasszony") or creations of writers which are not recognized as such ("Hadúr", first used by writer Sándor Aranyrákosi Székely in the 19th century for his epic A székelyek Erdélyben - see cief.elte.hu/sites/default/files/16palferenc65-73.pdf).

There are of course many websites and books on the topic, but most of them suffer from the same shortcomings and don't give acceptable sources for their theories. There are very few articles which deal with the issues on a scholarly level (like this one from Debrecen University, which explains why "Boldogasszony" is a Christian, not a pagan expression: mnytud.arts.unideb.hu/nevarchivum/konyvtar/helynev/tanulmanyok/horpacsi.doc - though it also makes a mistake: szent is not of Slavic, but of Latin origin, while boldog is Slavic: another reason why Boldogasszony can't be an "age-old pagan goddess name").

So maybe the article should be edited in a way that it is made clear that these names are based on theories which are not always recognized by scholars.Lumendelumine (talk) 08:10, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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