Talk:Hun (disambiguation)/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3

Religion

AS FAR as I know, "hun" does not have sectarian or religious roots. I would, therefore, considering the reference to it being a derogatory term for Protestants. MetricMilitia 19:48, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure you wrote completely what you meant. Could you explain that again? Korossyl 07:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

MY APOLOGIES, I meant I would therefore consider deleting the reference to it being a derogatory term for Protestants. MetricMilitia 21:19, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Being from Northern Ireland myself, I can assure you that this is most definately a common pejorative. --Mal 05:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Agreed with Setanta there. As of a British court ruling this year, using the word "hun" can be deemed religiously aggravated breach of the peace according to British law, and it must therefor be concidered a religious slur. (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2008/10/24/celtic-fan-wore-t-shirt-with-sectarian-message-on-uefa-cup-final-night-court-told-86908-20833881/, http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/article1848719.ece). I will hereby putting it there again. If that's not enough, I guess you'll have to delete it again. Thaum1el (talk) 17:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

There is not a "British court", there are separate Scottish courts though. The UK doesn't have a unified judicial system. See the wiki entry on Courts of Scotland[1]. The word "hun" was not deemed to be sufficient for a religiously aggravated breach of the peace. The main point of the court case you are citing was that this particular abuse of Rangers fans (i.e. "huns") was abusing a "protestant club", hence was religiously aggrevated. In partcular "Prosecutor Mary McRory had argued that most people perceive Rangers as being protestant." This evidence does not prove that "hun" of itself "is sometimes employed as a derogatory term for a protestant." This evidence suggests that this man abused Rangers fans (i.e. "huns") and that since Rangers are

a "protestant club" the abuse was sectarian. I think we should remove the citation. Nedao.glasgow (talk) 17:04, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

RELATING TO football, rather than religion. MetricMilitia 21:12, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Ephthalite ("White Huns") (Pechenegs[citation needed])

One (of many) could be Colin McEvedy's "The Penguin Atlas of Medieval History"... it contains much infomation about the Huns, White Huns, Juan-Juan, Avars, Pechenegs and Kumans... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.213.22.193 (talk) 20:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3