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Armenian genocide

Should a mention of the Armenian genocide be done on the historical background? It's a severe human rights violation but maybe 100 years is too long ago. It does however give readers with a longer view on the ethnic issues in the area including the roles of Kurds along history. Rojava#Historical background has:

The demographics of this area underwent a huge shift in the early part of the 20th century. Some Circassian, Kurdish and Chechen tribes cooperated with the Ottoman (Turkish) authorities in the massacres of Armenian and Assyrian Christians in Upper Mesopotamia, between 1914 and 1920, with further attacks on unarmed fleeing civilians conducted by local Arab militias.^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5] Many Assyrians fled to Syria during the genocide and settled mainly in the Jazira area.^[3]^[6]^[7] Starting in 1926, the region saw another immigration of Kurds following the failure of the Sheikh Said rebellion against the Turkish authorities.^[8] While many of the Kurds in Syria have been there for centuries, waves of Kurds fled their homes in Turkey and settled in Syria, where they were granted citizenship by the French mandate authorities.^[9] In the 1930s and 1940s, the region saw several failed autonomy movements.

It could be added, maybe summarized. --Error (talk) 16:16, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Travis, Hannibal. Genocide in the Middle East: The Ottoman Empire, Iraq, and Sudan. Durham, NC: Carolina Academic Press, 2010, 2007, pp. 237–77, 293–294.
^ Hovannisian, Richard G., 2007. [The Armenian Genocide: Cultural and Ethical Legacies https://books.google.com/books?id=K3monyE4CVQC]. Accessed on 11 November 2014.
^ ^a ^b R. S. Stafford (2006). The Tragedy of the Assyrians. pp. 24–25.
^ Jordi Tejel, 2008. [Syria's Kurds: History, Politics and Society https://books.google.com/books?id=g4f54qsU618C&].
^ Syria's Kurds: History, Politics and Society (PDF). pp. 25–29.
^ "Ray J. Mouawad, Syria and Iraq – Repression Disappearing Christians of the Middle East". Middle East Forum. 2001. Retrieved 20 March 2015.
^ Bat Yeʼor (2002). Islam and Dhimmitude: Where Civilizations Collide. p. 162.
^ Abu Fakhr, Saqr, 2013. As-Safir daily Newspaper, Beirut. in Arabic Christian Decline in the Middle East: A Historical View
^ Dawn Chatty (2010). Displacement and Dispossession in the Modern Middle East. Cambridge University Press. pp. 230–232. ISBN 978-1-139-48693-4.

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Reliable sources

@EtienneDolet, It is interesting how you did not contest ARA News and Hawar News (among other Kurdish propagnda outlets) but you persistently refuse to use Dailysabah newspaper simply because it is Turkish. This is clear POV. If you persist, I would recourse to removing all material from Kurdish sources and/or ask for arbitration. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 07:26, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Undiscussed move

Did a trouble-making editor really move a page to their preferred designation without any attempt at discussion? Again? Konli17 (talk) 22:02, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that edit-warrior's name is Konli17, as usual. Your move of the page was not discussed nor justified. This page talks about human rights violations in areas under control by YPG, SAA and Turkish/SNA. Consequently, the title has to reflect that, and AANES clearly does not. The only all-encompassing title would be something like northeastern Syria or Eastern-Euphrates area or something along these lines. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 02:19, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The lede specifies the AANES. You strike again. Konli17 (talk) 02:23, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Men's rights subheading between women's and ethnic minorities rights

Men's rights

"Rojava made no attempt to counter misandry yet. Military service is compulsory for men (voluntary for women) ^[1], and when children are being used as soldiers,^[2] boys predominate among them (60%^[3] - 100%^[4]).

While Rojava potentially advocates sexual liberation, gayphobia may be seen in practice.^[5]

Cases of violations relating to sexual violence remained significantly underreported, in particular when perpetrated against boys^[6]^[7]^[8].

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This section was unreasonably rolled back because it did not fit the themes of misandry or men's rights. Misandry, by Wikipedia, is "hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against men or boys", and men's rights advocacy, by Wikipedia, is "a focus on (...) issues (...) which (...) adversely impact - or (...) discriminate (...) men and boys". Sources I cite ("Men are forced to die on war, while for other groups it is voluntary", "There is prejudice against gay males", "Sexual violence against boys is underreported") show hatred, contempt for or prejudice against men or boys, so that falls under misandry definition, and talk about this falls under men's rights subheading. All the sources are reputable, and facts are directly supported by sources (if not, I kindly ask to point my errors out), as well as the problem is serious and worth mentioning, so this subheading deserves the place to be. AlmostDeveloper (talk) 11:23, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "2.6. Persons fearing forced or child recruitment by Kurdish forces". European Union Agency for Asylum. Retrieved 2023-10-26.
^ HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH (2014). "Maybe We Live and Maybe We Die" - Recruitment and Use of Children by Armed Groups in Syria (PDF) (Human Rights Watch ed.). ISBN 978-1-62313-1425.
^ United States Department of State • Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor (2018). "SYRIA 2018 HUMAN RIGHTS REPORT" (PDF). Human Rights and Labor (Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2018 ed.). {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |agency= ignored (help)
^ General Assembly, UN Security Council (2019). "Children and armed conflict" (PDF). General Assembly Security Council (promotion and protection of the rights of children ed.).
^ Ghazzawi, Razan. "Decolonising Syria's so-called 'queer liberation'". www.aljazeera.com. Retrieved 2023-10-26.
^ General Assembly, UN Security Council (2019). "Children and armed conflict" (PDF). General Assembly Security Council (9) (promotion and protection of the rights of children ed.): 3. Cases of violations relating to sexual violence remained significantly underreported, in particular when perpetrated against boys, owing to stigma, the lack of services and concerns for the protection of victims (for more information, see the annual report on conflict-related sexual violence, S/2019/280).
^ UNHCR (2017). "We Keep It in Our Hearts: Sexual Violence Against Men and Boys in the Syria Crisis". UN High Commissioner for Refugees.
^ ""Destroyed from Within". Sexual Violence against Men and Boys in Syria and Turkey", Country Report by All Survivors Project

[Travis2-1] Travis, Hannibal. Genocide in the Middle East: The Ottoman Empire, Iraq, and Sudan. Durham, NC: Carolina Academic Press, 2010, 2007, pp. 237–77, 293–294.

[2] Hovannisian, Richard G., 2007. [The Armenian Genocide: Cultural and Ethical Legacies https://books.google.com/books?id=K3monyE4CVQC]. Accessed on 11 November 2014.

[R._S._Stafford_2006_25-3] R. S. Stafford (2006). The Tragedy of the Assyrians. pp. 24–25.

[4] Jordi Tejel, 2008. [Syria's Kurds: History, Politics and Society https://books.google.com/books?id=g4f54qsU618C&].

[5] Syria's Kurds: History, Politics and Society (PDF). pp. 25–29.

[6] "Ray J. Mouawad, Syria and Iraq – Repression Disappearing Christians of the Middle East". Middle East Forum. 2001. Retrieved 20 March 2015.

[7] Bat Yeʼor (2002). Islam and Dhimmitude: Where Civilizations Collide. p. 162.

[8] Abu Fakhr, Saqr, 2013. As-Safir daily Newspaper, Beirut. in Arabic Christian Decline in the Middle East: A Historical View

[Chatty2010-9] Dawn Chatty (2010). Displacement and Dispossession in the Modern Middle East. Cambridge University Press. pp. 230–232. ISBN 978-1-139-48693-4.

[10] "2.6. Persons fearing forced or child recruitment by Kurdish forces". European Union Agency for Asylum. Retrieved 2023-10-26.

[11] HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH (2014). "Maybe We Live and Maybe We Die" - Recruitment and Use of Children by Armed Groups in Syria (PDF) (Human Rights Watch ed.). ISBN 978-1-62313-1425.

[12] United States Department of State • Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor (2018). "SYRIA 2018 HUMAN RIGHTS REPORT" (PDF). Human Rights and Labor (Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2018 ed.). {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |agency= ignored (help)

[13] General Assembly, UN Security Council (2019). "Children and armed conflict" (PDF). General Assembly Security Council (promotion and protection of the rights of children ed.).

[14] Ghazzawi, Razan. "Decolonising Syria's so-called 'queer liberation'". www.aljazeera.com. Retrieved 2023-10-26.

[15] General Assembly, UN Security Council (2019). "Children and armed conflict" (PDF). General Assembly Security Council (9) (promotion and protection of the rights of children ed.): 3. Cases of violations relating to sexual violence remained significantly underreported, in particular when perpetrated against boys, owing to stigma, the lack of services and concerns for the protection of victims (for more information, see the annual report on conflict-related sexual violence, S/2019/280).

[16] UNHCR (2017). "We Keep It in Our Hearts: Sexual Violence Against Men and Boys in the Syria Crisis". UN High Commissioner for Refugees.

[17] ""Destroyed from Within". Sexual Violence against Men and Boys in Syria and Turkey", Country Report by All Survivors Project

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