Talk:Humam-i Tabrizi

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Review: August 16, 2022. (Reviewed version).

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Cyrilic

Why are the verses written in Cyrilic? I think they should be written in the original script that was used by Homam. --alidoostzadeh 18:48, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 21:02, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:02, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Images are appropriately licensed. Sources are reliable.

"Shams al-Din Juvayni—who was the minister of Ilkhanate": what does "the minister of Ilkhanate" mean? Does it just mean he was an official in the Ilkhanate government, in which case I'd make it something like "who was a minister of the Ilkhanate government"? Or does it mean more than that?

Hmm.. I'm not sure what to say. Sources also sometimes use the title of grand vizier instead, so it would be the equivalent of that. --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:23, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe just use "grand vizier" instead then? The problem is that "minister" is such a general title readers will be uncertain how to interpret it. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:31, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gotcha - done. --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:33, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~You have a mixture of spellings; "honor" is AmEng; "favour" is BrEng. Which is it meant to be?~~

Hiya Mike. I hope you don't mind me writing inbetween your comment, thought it would make it easier to track whats fixed and whats not. I prefer BrEng, and therefore I have changed honor to honour. --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:01, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~"and of his ghazals is also mentioned": looks like a word or two is missing here?~~

Removed it, as it wasn't really that important. --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:20, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:16, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Passing. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:41, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, thank you very much for reviewing this! --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:09, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spotchecks

HistoryofIran, I realized after I promoted this to GA that I should have been doing spotchecks during the review. I've now done some; everything I checked was basically OK, but there's one sentence that I think needs attention.

"Humam's poetry was influenced by poets such as Sanai (died c. 1130), Anvari (died 1189), and Saadi Shirazi (died 1291/92)." The names are supported by the source, but the dates are not -- can we either remove the dates or add sources for them?

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:24, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I just used the dates listed in their respective Wiki articles, as I thought that shouldn't be controversial. Tbh I always do that, I think it gives a good insight on when these figures were actually active, and adding citations would just unnecessarily clutter the sentence imho. --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:43, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that's enough. Aside from the fact that we can't use the Wikipedia articles as sources, there's no way for a reader to verify the information. If you're getting the dates from Wikipedia articles with reliable sources for those dates, I think those sources need to be added. Multiple citations don't bother me, but if you dislike them you can bundle them. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 20:54, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Aight, I'll see what I can do. --HistoryofIran (talk) 22:45, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed all the parenthetical birth death dates, since as you say they are not sourced. To be honest I don't think it's always a good idea to include them; that's what links are for. In some cases I can see that the reader needs to know the dates of someone mentioned, but that's not true in every case. Please source anything you re-add. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:29, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]