Talk:Hulk Hogan/Archive 2

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No Mention of the Richard Belzer Incident!?

it should be included.

Richard Belzer Incident In 1985 on his cable TV talk show Hot Properties, Belzer said wrestling was fake and insisted Hulk Hogan put a wrestling move on him. Hulk Hogan put Belzer in a front chin lock or sleeper hold, which caused Belzer to pass out. When Hogan released him, Belzer hit his head on the floor, sustaining a laceration to his scalp which required him to be hospitalized briefly. Belzer sued Hogan for $5 million, and later settled out of court. Belzer used the settlement (rumored to be $1.5 million) to purchase a cottage in France, where he and his wife Harlee live when he's not working in the U.S. On October 20, 2006 on Bubba the Love Sponge it was claimed (with Hogan live on the phone) that the settlement totalled $5 million, half from Hogan and half from Vince McMahon.

Belzer used the incident in his HBO special Another Lone Nut as part of his stand-up routine.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iP7u5Djca3o

four tildes_9/13/03_noon o'klok_

Agreed. This was a noteworthy incident because outside the ring and the cartoons, this and a similar incident between Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler on Late Night With David Letterman (an incident that Lawler later revealed to be a work) were among the most prominent displays of the unusual nature of professional wrestling to the general public. P.F. Bruns (talk) 18:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Seeing as how everything Hogan says is 95% of the time fiction (especially on his friend bubba the love sponge's radio show) you can't really take it to mean much. Besides, why would Vince McMahon pay half the law suit since the incident was in 1995 and Hogan left the WWE in mid 1993? Hogan would have been working for WCW during the incident and testifying against Vince in a trail during this time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.145.220.220 (talk) 19:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Hogan's second theme

Regarding Hogan's second theme... the fact about the song being Bonnie Tyler's "Ravishing" is true. Check out her official bio on her website, there's a reference to it about midway through the biography. And take a listen to a clip of the track here at Amazon.com. The WWE version is probably an instrumental version of the song. --Jtalledo (talk) 16:57, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

That bio lists the release date of "Ravishing" in 1986; The Wrestling Album was released in 1985. Seems to me some studio hack decided to reuse the beat, and Bonnie's telling stories. --HBK 19:14, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

It looks like Jim Steinman is credited with writing Hogan's theme and he probably reused the beat for the song, see this bio Anyway, Steinman should be credited in the article. --Jtalledo (talk) 00:50, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Note about Real American - the Jimmy Hart thing isn't true. Jimmy Hart's tunes have been edited out of WWE's DVDs because they don't want to pay him royalties. The Jimmy Hart rumor originated as "he wrote the song for Hogan" when in fact the song was oringally for Rotundo/Windham. This is just a form of that rumor that Jimmy Hart wrote it for them. The song has been copywrited by the WWE forever - not "just before Hogan joined WCW". They've always owned it. And I don't think Jimmy Hart had anything to do with writing it - Rick Derringer performed it (could have wrote it), WWE's inside music man could have done it, as well help by David Worlf. Hart seems unlikely. Like I said, I've not heard of him writing the song anywhere except in the context of the mistruth "wrote it for Hogan".

Isn't it possible that Jimmy Hart wrote the song? I believe I've read numerous things about Jimmy Hart writing a good chunk of the entrance/theme songs to many WWE stars of that day. You mention a "WWE inside music man", which many have said was Hart to some extent. He wrote Shawn Michael's "Sexy boy" theme, if I'm not mistaken.Khal 18:59, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Most people credit Jim Johnston, the composer of dozens of WWE superstar and diva entrance themes, as WWE's "inside music man." Indeed, he is likely the most prolific wrestling music composer working, and has had his compositions on the last several WWE albums. P.F. Bruns (talk) 05:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

His trainer broke his leg deliberately?

I find this hard to believe. I can find several sources that mention he got his leg broken, but nothing to suggest that his trainer did it deliberately to instill respect. Can anyone cite a source please? 84.67.189.21 15:47, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Not only has Hogan stated this in interviews many many times, the story is printed in Hogan's own words in his autobiography "Hollywood Hulk Hogan" on page 25:

Before I knew it, (Hiro) Matsuda was sitting down between my legs and putting his elbow in the middle of my shin. Then he grabbed the end of my toe and twisted my foot until - crack! - my shinbone broke in half. The whole thing took about two seconds. I had barely gotten into the ring and my damn leg was broken.

If that quote doesn't make it clear, the book is searchable on Amazon.com, and the context makes it plain. --Chrysaor 02:44, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I have Hogan's book and I do remember reading about Hiro Matsuda breaking his leg. I doubt Matsuda would break Hogan's leg to install respect. That would be an extreme way to instill respect. If someone can find evidence on why he broke Hogan's leg, then we will never truly know why Matsuda did it.

fishhead2100 April 28, 2006 1:41AM (UTC)

I read his book and he did say that matsuda di that [how dare him]
Ksan April ? 2006 10:47 pm EST

At that time Hogan maybe was a cocky prick and thanks to Matsuda breaking Hogans leg now he the lovable Hogan we know and love today... just a thought.

I remember watching a couple of biography shows in which Hogan was the subject and he stated that Hiro Matsuda did snap his leg. He stated that he came in there kind of cocky and a little full of himself. I don't find it all that unlikely that it really happened, despite the fact that Hogan has always been a shameless self-promoter even during the most candid of interviews. Hiro Matsuda comes from a whole different generation of wreslters. He's from the same vain as Harley Race and Killer Kowalski, legitimate tough guys that wouldn't hesitate to put a cocky young punk in his place with a couple of extremely stiff shots. Odin's Beard

It wasn't unusal decades ago for trainers to injure people. This was for 2 reasons: 1) to show that wrestling was 'real'. 2) to see if you were tough enough to return. That's just the way it was back then. darkie

I heard that on Hogan's 1st training session his trainer broke his shin and told him if you return then you'll make it to a pro if not then you wont SKRIBUL 20:09, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

- - Matsuda was known to be hard on all of his students. --Khal 19:03, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Credibility. Hogan is the source and Hogan is the source that at Summerslam 92 he met a kid with cancer before his bout and won it. He went back and was told that the kid ahd died in the meantime. Slight problem. Summerslam 92 was at Wembley London and Hogan was not at it. 62.40.48.234 (talk) 14:00, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Chronological Order

I'm no expert on Hogan, so I dont' dare make such a drastic edit to this article for fear of putting stuff in the wrong order, but... why in the world is the article sorted by company affiliation? It makes little sense to skip from Hogan leaving WWF to returning, and then LATER mention his span in WCW, for instance. This is confusing to say the least. JPG-GR 06:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

If I'm not mistaken, the piece as of now is more or less in chronological order. One unusual aspect of the professional wrestling world comes to the fore here: 'most', if not all, wrestlers frequently change promotions. In years past, promotions were regional, which made changes even more common. If a worker wasn't drawing in the U.S. Midwest (historically, the territory of Verne Gagne's AWA, then he might finish or be released from his contract and go to, say, Florida Championship Wrestling or World Championship Wrestling. So Hogan's early jumps back and forth between the WWF and the AWA were not at all unusual. When U.S. wrestling promotions went national, following Vincent K. McMahon's consolidation and expansion of the then-WWF, workers could still jump between the national federations (WWF, AWA, and WCW), and the independent promotions (too many to list).

Then there's Japan. While Titan Sports seems to think of WWE as a worldwide promotion, the truth is that they have very little reach outside North America (and not nearly as much influence in Mexico, a historical mecca for professional wrestling, as in the U.S. and Canada). There are several Japanese nationwide wrestling promotions, all of which tend to welcome even mid-card U.S. wrestlers, because fans seem to really respond to gaijin. Most even moderately-successful workers in North American promotions try to work in Japan every so often, as the benefits include money and exposure. Creative control tends to depend on the worker's popularity and ability to negotiate, though.

All of this is a long-winded way of saying that I feel Hogan's history should reflect his characteristic transfers back and forth, as they are typical of pro wrestlers of his generation(s). I agree that it should be in strict chronological order, though. And for that matter, the mention of Hogan's filming of the Thunderlips character scenes for Rocky III seems disjointed the way it's written--since the first mention of the work precedes the explanation, it feels like we should read the entire page out of order, or we won't know what's going on. P.F. Bruns (talk) 18:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Hogan vs. Flair

This isnt really something that needs to be put on the page, but I just want to get other people views on it. The WWE keep pushing Flair & Hogan as the single most greatest legend of all time, but which one is the greatest if there is one?

That would depend what you would base "greatness" on the most. Like them or not, they're both great on the mic and working a crowd. I'd call it down the middle on that. Flair is obviously more skilled in technical terms. Most wrestlers can "out wrestle" Hogan after a month or so of in ring training. However, Hogan is certainly a much bigger draw than Ric Flair ever has been at any point in his career. While Hogan's in ring skills were limited to mostly a punch, a body slam, a boot, a clothesline, and a leg drop, the Hulk Hogan character itself crossed over into mainstream entertainment like no other wrestler did before him. The Hulk Hogan character was kind of like the ultimate good guy. An old fashioned comic book superhero brought to life that always did the right thing, said the right thing, was extremely patriotic, demonstrated or hinted at supporting Christian values, loved kids, etc. Basically, everything that the Regan Era conservative would eat up. Personally, I find it rather gag-worthy, but it sure worked. In a lot of ways, the Flair character was the exact opposite of the Hogan character. Both made immeasurable contributions to pro wrestling. But, like any other business, at the end of the day, it comes down to money. Hulk Hogan is wrestling's biggest draw. Just on the strength of him being at an event, even if he's not wrestling a match, thousands will buy tickets and millions will tune in from home. Odin's Beard 03:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

What many people don't realize is in Japan Hulk Hogan was a more technical styled wrestler. Where as Japan is mroe about athletism then in American where it's mostly about mic work.

I'm aware of it, but it's not the style he preferred as evident throughout almost his entire career. Working a more technical style for a few months while working in Japan can't counter the nearly three decades since of subpar "wrestling" skills while working matches. Hogan preferred a more limited style based mostly on power in combo with his ability to get over with a crowd. Nothing wrong with that at all. However, his "greatness" certainly never came from technical wrestling skills, but more from his charisma, drawing power, and having the right gimmick at the right point in America. Odin's Beard 01:54, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Odin - I don't think it's necessarily right to speak on a style Hogan "preferred". He wrestled one style in Japan and another in the US. During his time in the WWF, that style of wrestling (what some consider more subpar) was what was done, as opposed to the southern NWA matches, which showed a lot more technical wrestling for years on. The WWF was all about the "larger than life" battles, while other promotions relied on skill. The fact that Hogan went with that and ran it into the stratosphere doesn't mean that that's the style he PREFERRED, or he would have just stuck with that while wrestling in Japan. At least, that's how I see it. --Khal 19:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Wrestling Observer Newsletter Awards

Why does Hogan's page only list his positive accomplishments? He was voted most overrated seven times. If we're not including the negative, the positive should be removed as well. This isn't a fan site, it's an encyclopaedia.Kirby17 16:31, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree entirely. Those need to go in as wellIsaac Benaron 07:59, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

I definitely think that the "Most Overrated" awards (penalties?) deserve some mention on the main page. An individual who has never heard of Hogan (and this will increasingly be the case as time marches on) could conceivably assume from the article that Hogan was universally appreciated or respected in some way, when in fact he won those "awards" for good reason: his early rise was predicated on his appearance and presentation, both of which he leveraged throughout his career. Granted, most wrestlers since Gorgeous George have done this, but Hogan typifies the phenomenon of a worker given a push over more experienced and more skilled wrestlers. P.F. Bruns (talk) 18:29, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

He never held the world tag team titles with edge...

Yes, he did.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/titlehistory/worldtagteam/30445413211222 Gavyn Sykes (talk) 16:19, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Divisive Figure

Not sure how we'd do this, but I think we need to mention the fact that Hogan is rather a divisive figure among wrestling fans- I can think of no other man who is both so totally adored by old-school wrestlign fans and so thoroughly detested by Smarks (myself included) and the IWC. This is a notable fact.Isaac Benaron 07:59, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Dude not all smark dislike Hogan. I wouldn't even say half of them do. watch some of his newer appearances all you can here is chearing.

A point about any and all wrestling television: the audience reaction is frequently remixed by the sound engineers. Don't assume everything you hear on TV occurred at the taping--or even the live event. Certain angles in 2003 and 2004 played out at the St. Pete Times Forum in Tampa (for instance) to stunned silence--and even "I'm gonna go grab a soda" indifference. The same cards aired on television to screaming throngs...whose lips were not moving. P.F. Bruns (talk) 01:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Scary Movie 5

On the tv/movie roles it says that he will be on Scary Movie 5. Is that true and if it is, what page is it referenced on? Wweisreal 16:18, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

No reference was made, and it has been removed. (Sawyer 08:07, 25 August 2007 (UTC))

This is what's listed as the reference for it on the Scary Movie 5 page: http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2007_/articles/1187236621.php if you google "Scary Movie 5 Hulk Hogan" there are plenty of websites reporting it, but it's always possible that they just heard the rumour elsewhere and ran with it. Th 2005 08:26, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Ridiculous Length

Not to knock Hogan at all, but most Nobel prize winners don't have articles anywhere near this long.Landroo 12:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

MTV reality show? "Hogan knows best" is on VH1. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.2.84 (talk) 14:29, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

VH1 is owned by MTV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.127.219.194 (talk) 22:21, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Such is the way of the world I suppose. I'm willing to wager there are more people that care about "Hollywood" Hulk Hogan than the latest Nobel prize winner. Th 2005 15:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Additionally, most Nobel Prize winners do exceptional work in their fields, but have relatively unexceptional personal lives. This is not an accident, I think: Hogan's bank account depends on his camera time, so the more exposure, the better; conversely, your typical research chemist, physician, physicist, or even author does better outside the limelight.

As to the MTV/VH1 confusion: MTV does not own VH1. Both are owned by Viacom, which runs them through its (and here's where things get confusing) MTV Networks division. However, it is more proper to say that "Hogan Knows Best" airs (aired? Is it still on? I haven't really cared enough about the product to know) on VH1. P.F. Bruns (talk) 18:33, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Last Name

Do I assume correctly that the article is calling him "Hogan" throughout the piece, even before he changed his name, simply because everyone identifies him as "Hogan"? FlaviaR 19:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Legally, he's still Terry Gene Bollea, as far as I know. However, compare to the entry for Cary Grant, which also uses that name nearly throughout, starting from when the former Archibald Leach took "Cary Grant" as his stage name. (Comparing their relative merits, however, is probably not productive, but that's a topic for another discussion page.) P.F. Bruns (talk) 18:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Biography / Family / Ethnicity

Since this page is locked, can someone add the following information about the Hulk. Many people didn't even know Hogan's surname is really Bollea (evident in the news about his son's recent accident). It would be helpful if someone can add that he was "the third child born to Italian-American Pete Bollea, and Ruth Bollea, a Panamanian-American of Italian and French heritage." This is courtesy of tricolore.net, BiographyChannel, imdb.com, vh1, and other prestigious media web pages. This will also help to link him to the page of List_of_Italian_Americans. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.73.44 (talk) 00:06, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Move Set

Someone should add his clothesline follow-up. He would irish whip almost every opponent to the corner and follow them in with a clothesline on his comebacks.

And what about his eye rake? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.87.40.172 (talk) 03:13, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Claims about childhood.

The claim about Hogan being abused as a child should not be restored without a credible source. Wikipedia's living person biography policy states: "We must get the article right.[1] Be very firm about the use of high quality references. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately and without discussion from Wikipedia articles,[2] talk pages, user pages, and project space. An important rule of thumb when writing biographical material about living persons is "do no harm". Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid; it is not our job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives. Biographies of living persons (BLP) must be written conservatively, with regard for the subject's privacy." -- Kevin Browning 21:13, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Length issues

A think a good way to trim down the article is to really clean out the WCW portion of the article. We can hit the highlights of his career there, but transfer must of the details to New World Order (professional wrestling). We can add the {{main|New World Order (professional wrestling)}} tag right under the header so people know where to go to read about that time in his career. Anyone agree or disagree? Nikki311 00:02, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Agree - needs to be in summary style. Davnel03 12:51, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Agree - like the rest of all the articles that were part of a stable. Zenlax ^Talk ^{Contributions} ^Signatures 19:17, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Overuse of the word "Hogan."

In the opening paragraphs, prior to his wrestling career, the article constantly refers to him as "Hogan." In accordance with writing in an out-of-universe style, should those occurences not be changed to "Bollea?" He should be called "Hogan" during the coverage of his wrestling career, since those sections are more or less about the character he played rather than the person himself. I'm just bringing this up. As an example for what those paragraphs could potentially look like, see Edge's article. Gavyn Sykes 17:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Anything prior to him being known as Hogan should be Bollea instead. Nikki311 17:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Nikki. --Cra sh U nderride 19:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Disagree. See entries for other prominent performers who appear or appeared primarily under stage names, particularly Cary Grant, Michael Keaton, and Chevy Chase. Frankly, even most news articles written about celebrities (major and minor) generally include only a quick aside referencing a given celebrity's birth name. And, hey, it could be worse: the former Todd Clem eventually changed his name legally to Bubba the Love Sponge Clem. P.F. Bruns (talk) 18:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Back Rake?

This is the only move in this article that I could not link properly. It redirects to Professional wrestling attacks but I can find no move listed on that page to be a "back rake." Can anyone help? Gavyn Sykes 20:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

The back rake is exactly what it sounds like, Hogan would just take his nails and scratch them down his opponents back. I really don't think enough other wrestlers did it to warrant inclusion on the attacks page though.«»bd(^talk _stalk) 20:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok then, I'll just remove the link. That's for the explanation. Gavyn Sykes 20:41, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Classy Freddie Blassie

The reference to Hogan no longer having Blassie around is odd - the article itself doesn't refer to a period when Blassie was his manager. WillE 19:05, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

From the source: "With "heel" manager Classie Freddie Blassie at his side, Hogan played the muscular, egotistical blond villain." Nikki311 20:55, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Clearwater, NO

Mr. Hogan does not and has not lived in Clearwater. Bellair, yes. Miami, certainly. Clearwater, no. Please do not re-add Mr Hogan to Clearwater article. Thanks. Cheers, :) MikeReichold 20:46, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Getting divorced

???????????????????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.172.41.24 (talk) 03:19, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Please sign your posts. (Sawyer (talk) 03:59, 25 November 2007 (UTC))

Yes, he did get divorced. It might be worth putting in the article, but I'm not sure. User:Darkdemon90 20:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

The reasons stated in "Personal Life" seems different from whats out there i.e. extramarital affairs. Any suggestions? User:FunKeh 13 March 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.236.182.9 (talk) 12:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, you could volunteer to edit the section, with proper references, of course. Boomshadow —Preceding comment was added at 18:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Birthplace Needs Changing.

FYI, Hogan was born in Augusta, GA.......not Atlanta, GA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy112382 (talk • contribs) 06:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Reference? (Sawyer (talk) 04:00, 25 November 2007 (UTC))

The Church of Hulkamania

Hulk Hogan now has a religious group dedicated to him on facebook. The members are trying to gain enough support to make Hulkamania an official religion. http://facebook.com/group.php?gid=13712650366

- - - - 4th December 2007 - - - - —Preceding unsigned comment added by Janeyobvxx (talk • contribs) 02:00, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

That's interesting, but not relevant to the article. (Sawyer (talk) 22:56, 5 December 2007 (UTC))

Height

Hulk Hogan actually stands 6'4" tall; however, there were times in his career when he claimed to stand as high as 6'9" tall. In the AWA in 1982 when Hogan was in Rocky II, Hogan claimed that he was 6'9" tall. When Hulk Hogan moved to the WWF, he was listed as 6'8" tall. By the time Hogan was in the WCW Hogan was listed as 6'7. Hulk Hogan now admits that he is only 6'4" tall.

Hulk Hogan's son, Nick, (i.e., Nick Bollea) is said to be subconscious of the fact that he is shorter than his sister, Brooke, who stands at 5'11" tall. Brooke often wears high-heel shoes that add another two inches to her height. As a result, Nick Hogan looks significantly shorter compared to Brooke. In fact, Nick Hogan makes the false claim that he is 6'1" tall. In reality, Nick Hogan stands just under 5'10" tall. The only time that Nick Hogan ever measured in at 6'1" tall was when he had a Mohawk haircut that added three false inches to his height. Using the Mohawk as a method of exaggerating his height was the idea of Hulk Hogan--who is also known for exaggerating his height. Mike mgoblue (talk) 20:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Hogan is not 6'8! He is around 6'3 or 6'4 nowadays tops. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.228.245.45 (talk) 00:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Thats why it says "Billed hight" (translation: not his real hight, but how tall they claim he is). Nenog (talk) 00:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Hulk Hogan's billed height and weight in his prime was 6'8" and 303 pounds. This is what should be stated. When he went to WCW in 1994 his billed stats were 6'7" and 275 pounds. I am one of the biggest Hogan fans and even appeared on his show on VH1, I think it is rediculous that I cannot edit this false information that some of you clowns put. His billed height was never and will never be 6'4". It was 6'8" most of his career and is currently 6'7", just look at his WWE Hall Of Fame Bio on WWE.COM. In more recent WWE matches he is billed at 285 pounds. You are a bunch of clowns. By the way, now Hogan is AT LEAST 6'5", I met him and have pics with him. Because of hip replacements, knee replacements, the way he stands (his knees are always bent) he does not appear 6'7". Someone edit this. Jo-Jo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yellowstang2004 (talk • contribs) 21:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

If you cite the information when you put it in the article, there's no problem at all. But personal attacks are not a good idea. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:05, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

The 6'4" height is also uncited, so why should it get priority? I can understand Jo-Jo's frustration since the 6'7"-6'8" 300 lb figure is common knowledge to any fan of WWF wrestling in the 80s and early 90s, so this is a really obvious error. If you want a citation, how about the commercially available tapes of Wrestlemania III, IV, V, VI, SummerSlam 89, 90, just for starters? Not all valid sources need to be online. JoeFink (talk) 17:45, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Jo-Jo is correct. Jesse "The Body" Ventura comments several times during Hogan's famous match against Andre the Giant at Wrestlemania 3 that Hogan is 6'8". A quick Youtube search or video rental confirms this. I think the stat should be changed too. Jason Quinn (talk) 23:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

This height and weight stuff is ridiculous - it's BILLED height and weight. It's been 303 for most the 80's and early 90s and 6 foot 8. Now it's 6 foot seven and 285 pounds. It's BILLED, not actual. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chadhart (talk • contribs) 23:46, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Of course, it'd be ideal if the 6'4" stat had a source to it. I don't think it's going to happen though unless somebody manages to get a peek at his drivers license or at his medical records from his last physical. On one episide of Hogan Knows Best, while he's interviewing potential bodyguards for Brooke, he does say that he's about 6'5" and weighs 285 lbs. The 6'4" stat, more than anything else I think, comes from just comparing his height with other people both as wrestlers and on the Hogan Knows Best reality show. The WWE and WCW stats shouldn't be used because they're just plain not accurate. WCW listed Hogan at 6'7" but Dennis Rodman is 6'8". Anybody that's ever seen the two together can clearly see that Rodman has more than a 1 inch height advantage over Hogan. That automatically knocks the 6'8" stat out because he's just not as tall as Dennis Rodman is. It's just an exaggeration to make him seem even more physically formidable. Same thing's been done to Kane, The Undertaker, and Andre the Giant. At WM III, Gorilla Monsoon said Andre was 7'5" and that's one giant pant load of an exaggeration. Hogan's recent appearance on the Raw 15th Anniversary show is another good indicator of his true height, at least judging by comparisson with another person. The Great Khali is legitimately about 7'3" and the bottom of his chin was about even with the top of Hulk Hogan's head, which would put Hogan about 6'4". Odin's Beard (talk) 02:49, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Um, do you understand what "BILLED" height means? If you want to report the ACTUAL height, then it should say "ACTUAL Height" in the box. But it doesn't - it says "BILLED" height, and Hogan has always been BILLED as 6'7"-6'8". No one knows what the actual height is, your creative speculation notwithstanding, so that's why all the wrestler articles report BILLED height and weight, since those are known quantities. JoeFink (talk) 16:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Inconsistency in the Article

Under the Section "Birth of Hulkamania (1983-1985)" The article states "On January 3, 1984, Hogan appeared at a television taping, saving Bob Backlund from a three way assault. Hogan's turn was explained simply by Backlund: 'He's changed his ways. He's a great man. He's told me he's not gonna have Blassie around'." This indicates that Hogan was a heel in the WWF and needed to turn. Nowhere in the article is it indicated that Hogan was a heel in the WWF before this though. Further it references Balssie without explaining who Blassie is. --CooliLowe (talk) 20:09, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Place of birth

Hulk Hogan was born in Augusta, Georgia, not atlanta. This is clearly stated in his book. Lee 1:27, 08 January 2008 (UTC)

HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN won the IWGP World title in 1983

In the title history page HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN is listed as having one the IWGP tournamet on 6/2/83, which is true. But by doing so he was also awarded declaired the first IWGP World champion. When watching the match you can clearly see the officials strap the IWGP World title belt around his waist. The same belt that was used through at least 1993. He hald the title for a little over a year before dropping it to Antonio Inoki on 6/14/84.

Inoki got the shot at HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN after winning the 1984 tournament. He still had to defeat HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN to win the title.

So HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN did hold the IWGP World title from 6/2/83 to 6/14/84 and should be recognized for it.

The Boss 1-17-08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBoss1022 (talk • contribs) 22:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

The IWGP World Heavyweight Championship wasn't created until 1987. The IWGP tournament in and of itself was just that, a tournament. The winner of the 1987 tournament, Antonio Inoki, was declared IWGP World Champion. This is backed up here: http://www.wrestling-titles.com/japan/newjapan/iwgp-h.html and in the book "Wrestling Title Histories" Revised 4th Edition written by Royal Duncan and Gary Will. Both the site and the book are extremely reliable and have been used as referenced in numerous Wikipedia articles. Hogan won the first IWGP tournament, but he didn't win the IWGP World Championship.Odin's Beard (talk) 00:11, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Then how do you explain this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOSj8iYMK_Y At the end of the match Inoki is given a belt, presumably the IWGP, which Hogan is shown carrying to the ring in the first part of the video. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.23.48.101 (talk) 01:02, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

It's moot. The belt that Hogan was given for winning the first IWGP tournamet was given instead of something like a trophy. Hogan didn't defend the belt he received for winning the tournamet against opponents as he'd later do with the WWE and WCW Championships. Awarding belts rather than trophies isn't too common, but it does happen. They even do it in some competitive eating events. In the World Class Championship Wrestling promotion, they did the reverse. The promotion used a giant trophy, well over 6 feet, to represent the WCCW World Six-Man Tag Team Championship for a time, though they did eventually replace the trophy with the more customary championship belts. However, the IWGP World Heavyweight Championship wasn't created and used as the primary singles championship in New Japan Pro Wrestling until 1987.Odin's Beard (talk) 00:09, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

This is a little bit off topic but why do you insist on refering to him as Hollywood Hulk Hogan in the early 80's. he wasnt given the nickname hollywood until going to WCW. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.25.53 (talk) 22:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

If you watch the greatest 50 moments in TNA dvd you will see hogan saying he has not won the IWGP Championship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.25.53 (talk) 22:30, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Ferrigno "dwarfed" by Hogan?

Yeah, I don't think so. They're about the same height - put "Hulk Hogan and Lou Ferrigno" in a Google image search. Ferrigno might have had true 22" arms at his peak (and could bench 500lbs for reps), Bollea while certainly a big guy has never had 24" arms except in his dreams. 19" maybe.Docsavage20 (talk) 02:27, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Nick names

Shouldn't Hulkimania be listed in his nicknames Bam123456789 (talk) 08:56, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

That's not a nickname for him. It was a way to describe the fanbase as a whole. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 16:36, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

badly worded

i was reading this and i think it is badly worded. At WWE Backlash, Hassan and Daivari lost to Hogan and Michaels. I almost thought hogan lost. Should it not say At Backlash Hogan and Michaels defeated Hassan and Michaels Adster95 (talk) 19:00, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Just So You Know, Hogan's Alleged Affair with Plante Is Unproven Tabloid Gossip. It Has Not Been Proven in Anyway at all. It's as Factual as P Diddy Shooting Tupac in 1994 and McCain Having an Affair with A Lobbyist

It was the tabloid magazine The National Enquirer that made this accusation to begin with, and it spread to other media tabloid sources as well. Other times people have also said that Brooke has commented about the affair on her MySpace blog, and that it was erased. Just so you know, I checked her blog at the times, and I never saw it once. The tabloid writers who have made this claim also did not give the MySpace blog as source; they only said she typed the words in. The story is as unproven as the LA Times report that P Diddy shot Tupac in 1994 and the New York Times story that John McCain had an affair with a lobbyist as well.

Endorsements and Business Ventures

"In an interview on both the Tonight Show and Late Night with Conan O'Brien, Hogan claimed that the George Foreman Grill was originally offered to him, but he failed to respond in time. George Foreman was called and he chose to endorse the grill instead of a blender. This claim was validated on an episode of Hogan Knows Best, in which his wife Linda and the family are worried about Hogan's wrestling career and plead with him to take up a career in marketing"

Just exactly how does tha latter part of that statement validate the former half? This is kind of like "Hulk said it was true TWICE, so it must be true" GHouck (talk) 17:52, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Atomic Leg Drop

What is the origin of this "Atomic leg drop" name? It was never called this from what I remember in the WWF or WCW. I've only seen it in some video games, which doesn't really warrant it, since that's just what a developer decided to call it, unless there's some other origin for the name. 69.23.212.206 (talk) 01:46, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Wording Update

"He currently stars on the VH1 reality show Hogan Knows Best..." -- as stated on the Hogan Knows Best page, while the shown has been spun off to Brooke Hogan Knows Best, the prior Hogan Knows Best show is done with. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.175.5 (talk) 06:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

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Recent edits

Nikki — The article looks much better now. I changed some very minor things I caught — for one thing, the World Wrestling Federation was using that name in December 1979 when Hogan arrived for his first run, the WWF having dropped the "Wide" (and third "W") from its name several months earlier — but otherwise, the article appears to be very clean, with reliable sources and very little gobbledygook. Good job! [[Briguy52748 (talk) 13:03, 14 August 2008 (UTC)]]

Shouldn't this article be titled Terry Bolea rather than Hulk Hogan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.134.243.233 (talk) 18:34, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

No. — James26 (talk) 06:00, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

NWA title shot in 1979

this should really be sourced. One assumes it was against Race since he was technically champ, but on a local tour he might have dropped it to a local guy, and then Hogan went up against the local, and Race won it back when he left, all the while the NWA pretended nothing happened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.131.23 (talk) 02:18, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Hogan's height

On his info box it is written that Hogan is 6'7" tall but nowadays, due to several surgeries, he has lost about 3 inches. Shouldn't we change his height to 6'4" then? Hogan also appears slightly taller than The Rock. Please see CelebHeights for more infos. Big King (talk) 20:55, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

No, his height should still say 6'7" because it is a billed height. This means that when he wrestles, he is billed at 6'7" and according to his WWE profile thats correct. He was actually billed at 6'8" in the 80's and early 90's. Billed height should be changed back to 6'7". -- Jo-Jo (Yellowstang2004) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yellowstang2004 (talk • contribs) 05:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Surely an article should give facts, and where hype has been offered as fact, the article should highlight it. If someone is billed as 6'8" in their publicity then by all means report that he is 'billed' as 6'8" but if he is actually some other height, then that should be pointed out in the article too.

Since when has Hogan ever been billed as 7'1"? The note leads to a broken link, and even if you go to Hogan's WWE profile via the site, he's still billed as 6'7". Surely this shouldn't be here, or if he has been billed as 7'1" in some promotion, link to some proof. I've deleted it for now, feel free to change it back if you have proof that he has ever been billed as that height. 92.17.155.115 (talk) 18:26, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Dwarfing Lou Ferrigno?

The article says:

"During this time, he appeared on a talk show, where he sat beside Lou Ferrigno, star of the television series The Incredible Hulk. The host commented how Terry, who stood 6 ft 7 in and weighed 295 pounds with 24 inch biceps, actually dwarfed "the Hulk.""

According to the article on Lou Ferrigno, "At his peak, the 6 ft 5 in[5] (195 cm) Ferrigno's contest weight was 285 lb[5] (130 kg) and he was one of the tallest professional bodybuilders at that time.", that is, pretty much the same height and weight numbers. And we all know that (1) billed heights and weights of wrestlers are exaggerated and (2) a bodybuilder's of season weight is significantly greater than the contest weight. So, how is it possible that the host thought that Terry Bollea "dwarfed" Lou Ferrigno? // JiPe (90.227.155.217 (talk) 21:56, 26 October 2008 (UTC))

Co-star of Brooke Knows Best error

Just as a note, a sentence in the intro reads: he co-stars in the reality show Brooke Knows Best.

Hulk Hogan is not a co-star on Brooke Knows Best but merely makes guest appearances like Linda Hogan. Hulk neither lives with Brooke and isn't even seen on several episodes. He is seen on some but his visits are relatively short and sometimes just over the phone. The show stars Brooke Hogan and the co-hosts are Ashley and Glenn who are in each episode and live with Brooke. Hulk may have co-hosted and starred on Hogan Knows Best but not on Brooke Knows Best if someone would unprotect the page and make this correction. 65.31.103.28 (talk) 04:47, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

He was 'obbsessed with using Irish names'

"Vince Snr. gave him the name Hogan as he was obbsessed with using Irish names."

This is simply flat-out wrong. In Hogan's book he states that he was given the name because Vince Snr looked at the market and say that the Italian-Americans had a wrestler, the Mexican-Americans had a wrestler, the African-Americans had a wrestler; in fact, the only people who didn't have one where the Irish-Americans. So there was a market to be filled.

This should be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.64.218.94 (talk) 00:15, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

If you provide me a source as to that, I'd be more than willing to address the issue and add it into the article. Cheers! Cheers_Dude (talk) 16:48, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Personal Life????

There are things that should be moved to a different/new section such as Bollea's affair with Plante, and Claridge's decision for divorce. Other than that, Personal Life is fine.68.192.42.42 (talk) 09:07, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

this article is too long

Its longer than the article for William Shakespeare. Do we really need to know about what brand of toothpaste hulk uses? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.195.36.133 (talk) 22:27, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

It is really a shame for the English Wikipedia to have this kind of expanded articles about a mere wrestler. It has actually been quoted today as one of the silliest Wikipedia biographical articles by a Spanish radio talk show (together with William Shatner's). It is ridiculously long and its contents are mostly irrelevant. Please consider rewriting the article for the sake of encyclopedic respectability. --jofframes (talk) 11:06, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

"A mere wrestler" - wtf? I'll have you know there's nothing "mere" about wrestlers!

a wrestler 84.67.139.6 (talk) 17:50, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, let's see what the veterans got to say. I believe Hulk Hogan did lots of notable and surprising things in his career, both in and out of wrestling so which is why the article is long. I am not bothered though because I'm used to reading both short and long encyclopedias. Darkness Wolf (talk) 19:30, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

"Its longer than the article for William Shakespeare."

And?

"Do we really need to know about what brand of toothpaste hulk uses?"

No, probably not. Overall, I agree that trivial info shouldn't be included, but sourced info relevant to one's career usually has a place, regardless of whether the person happens to be a former wrestler or not. Anyone who feels the article can be improved is welcome to contribute. --James26 (talk) 03:15, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

I think what you run into is the Hulk Hogan name is so prevalent in pop culture, I mean unless you have been living under a rock, you know who he is. Even a person who doesnt follow the sport could probably name him off the top of his head. He is a very polarizing figure and i think for people who may or may not be fans, they should know about him. These aritcles are for learning. BlackScreaminMachine (talk) 19:46, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Of course it's longer than the article on Shakespeare! Hell, some people don't even agree that Shakespeare existed, how are you supposed to write than in depth an article on him? It stands to reason that modern figures will have longer articles because there is more easily-verifiable information available about them. Besides, Hulk Hogan and William Shatner have produced a lot more interesting work than Shakespeare. Optimus Sledge (talk) 00:18, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Hulk Hogan website resource

I was browsing and came across to this Hulk Hogan website. It seems like it's not up yet but when it was up it was pretty informative on Hulk Hogan. www.immortalhulkhogan.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mx2madmetal (talk • contribs) 08:05, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Babyface

What exactly does it mean to be one of the greatest babyfaces of all time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.186.52.59 (talk) 19:05, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

When you're the most beloved wrestler ever, and single handedly make two companies, I'd say that's good enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.86.145 (talk) 18:34, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Recent ethnicity edits

As was stated on Wikipedia for a long time, he is Italian on his father's side (Bollea is a Northern Italian surname) and of Italian, French, and Panamanian descent on his mother's side. For some reason, a Wikipedian decided to remove everything except for the French background. Sadistik (talk) 09:20, 17 April 2009 (UTC) Actually Bollea is an English surname. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.152.185.55 (talk) 02:25, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Top Photo of Hulk Hogan is not Hulk Hogan

It is actually a photo of Superstar Billy graham. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.57.35 (talk) 01:29, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

No its quite clearly Hulk Hogan, if you go onto Billy graham's page you can see theres a big difference Adster95 11:12, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

He's Italian; I've heard him say so himself in interviews. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.188.38 (talk) 22:54, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Blassie

--Dustythecat (talk) 02:29, 26 May 2009 (UTC) The wikipedia page on Blassie and the WWE's page, [1], spell Classy with a "y", not "ie".

Steroid scandal

Re-added and sourced material dealing with the George Zahorian scandal and the 1994 federal trial of McMahon.208.180.245.132 (talk) 14:36, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

The section at the end on his bad back could be updated to include the bone degredation due to anabolic steroid abuse, which is also responsible for the two hip replacements (and the limp on Hogan Knows Best). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.46.189 (talk) 17:33, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Name

Is there any reason that throughout the page his name is continualy swapped from Bollea to Hogan and back? Could one be picked and then just stick with that one? 92.12.194.222 (talk) 23:03, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, there is a reason. Bollea, his real name is used in non-wrestling sections. In sections pertaining to his wrestling career, Hogan is used. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 04:38, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

That seems like a fair enough reason but doesnt seem to be the case. In the same paragraphs, which are not about wrestling, it switches from one to the other, which is surely a bit ridiculous? Maybe thats appropriate, like you say, and its just me? JimBrownish (talk) 23:30, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, that's how it was several months back. I'll go back through the article and make appropriate changes. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 05:04, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

shouldnt someone add that he is now in a relationship with jennifer —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cenasmylife (talk • contribs) 06:39, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Source? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 05:04, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, seriously, the article is just fucking awkward to read. Can people decide which name to refer to him as and stick to it? What's the problem with referring to him as Hogan? I understand (without agreeing with) the argument that Hogan is his public persona, but the picture of his ex-wife is captioned "Linda Hogan" and there are references to him as Hogan before he was assigned the name. There's no consistency here. Also, to pick a fairly random example, the article on John Wayne refers to him as Wayne throughout, despite his birth name being Morrison. Optimus Sledge (talk) 23:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Is he 6' 4" or is he 6' 7"

The article refers to a talk show on which Lou Ferrigno and Hogan both appeared. The text refers to Hogan as being 6' 7" - yet in the comment box on the right hand side of the article it clearly states that Hogan's billed height is 6' 7" but that his actual height is 6' 4". I don't really care either way, but if he is actually 6' 4" then that is how he should be described in the article. Just my view. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.233.172 (talk) 17:59, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

The talk show happened during a time where kayfabe was always maintained, so the billed height was used. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:19, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I have to disagree completely. Hogan had massive amounts of surgery on his back in the 1980s. It's common knowledge that he lost at least a couple of inches in height from thats surgery. They removed bits of his spinal column.

In interviews he said he was 6'6 at his peak. And dropped to about 6'4 after the surgery. If you look at photos in his younger days, he towers over 6 footers. He's quite obviously much taller than 6'3/6'4.

He probably was close to being 6'7 in that era. He was certainly a few inches taller than Ferringo who is 6'4. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.128.223.67 (talk) 18:01, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Hogan a heel in December '83? Are you sure???

Regarding this section: "Hogan made his return to the WWF at a television taping in St. Louis, Missouri on December 27, 1983 defeating Bill Dixon. Initially, Hogan was a heel, once again allied with Blassie; however, this was short-lived."

I can't find any reference anywhere for Hogan having been a heel at this point, and indeed it would have been totally counterproductive to the promotional direction of the WWF at this point. I've not seen the 83-12-27 match against Dixon in its entirety (indeed I've only seen a short snippet of Hogan legdropping Dixon) and it isn't on Youtube so if Blassie was indeed at ringisde for that match, then fair enough. However all the evidence I can find suggests that Hogan wrestled this bout as a babyface with no Blassie. Let us consider:

1) Certainly, Hogan had been a heel with Blassie in the WWF in 1979-81 but in December 1983 he had been brought in as prospective lead babyface, inheriting the mantle worn by Backlund and Bruno Sammartino before him. There would have been no point in giving him a heel run, particularly not for just one TV squash match.

2) The Sheik-Backlund WWF title change - which had been set up to give Hogan a heel interim champion to beat (and save Backlund from having to job to Hogan) took place on December 26 1983 - the night before the taping of the Hogan-Dixon match. The Iron Sheik was of course managed by Blassie so it would make little sense for Hogan to reunite with the manager of the champion he wanted to challenge. Dixon, an enhancement talent worker, was mostly wrestling babyfaces such as Tito Santana, Tony Atlas & Rocky Johnson around this time, so it would appear he (Dixon) was a heel at this time, so Hogan, correspondingly, was the face in this match.

3) Hogan second apppearance, the angle where he rescued Backlund from the Samoans and afterwards they cut a promo where Backlund confirmed "I've been talking to the Hulk. He's changed his ways. He's a great man. He told me he's not going to have Blassie around" was taped on 3rd January 1984 as also was a tag team match where Hogan and Backlund defeated Mr Fuji and Tiger Chung Lee. The angle/promo and the December 27 1983 match vs Bill Dixon were both screened on 7th January as noted in the article. The programme was Hogan's first WWF TV appearance since 1981 and the show where he was first established as a potential challanger to champion Sheik. It would make no sense to have shown a match of Hogan as a heel with Blassie, much less to film a new such match especially for use in the programme. I would therefore suggest that Backlund's line about how Hogan would not have Blassie around was a reference back to the 1979-81 period, not the recent past.

4) Backlund/Hogan vs Fuji/Lee was aired on the January 14th edition of WWF Championship Wrestling. Between then and Hogan's January 23rd 1984 title win over the Iron Sheik, Hogan's two remaining engamements were taped on 16th January Wrestling At The Chase taping and screened on 21st January just three days prior to the title match. These were (1) another win over an enhancement talent, one Gilbert Guerrero, and (2) a promo where Hogan talked about going after the title held by the heelish Sheik. Neither are any indication of Hogan being a heel.

5) In summary, before the title match, Hogan's comeback had consisted of three matches - two squashes and one tag with the lead babyface ex-champ versus two hated heels - plus two promos about challenging a hated anti-American heel champion (managed by Blassie) for his title. Only on one of the squashes (Dixon) could he possibly have been a heel and this is unlikely since it was screened as part of the same TV broadcast as the angle/promo where he rescued - and received endorsement from - the said lead babyface ex-champion.

As I said at the outset, if Blassie was indeed in Hogan's corner for the Dixon match, then fair enough. But, in the absence of any more than a couple of seconds' footage of the match, I can find no evidence to support this and it makes no sense at all. In short, I think the reference to Blassie being in Hogan's corner in December '83 was an error and should be amended.

Sources: http://web.archive.org/web/20061218030131/www.angelfire.com/wrestling/cawthon777/83.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20061218030131/www.angelfire.com/wrestling/cawthon777/84.htm

DM 84.67.139.6 (talk) 17:17, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've asked on the Wrestling Classics forum:

http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=102890

They're all very insistent that Hogan was a babyface right from the start of his second WWF stint.

I repeat again, the reference to Blassie being in Hogan's corner in December '83 was an error and should be amended.

DM 84.66.24.39 (talk) 15:13, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Retired?

Just letting you know he isnt retired, he's wrestling in Australia next month against Ric Flair and intends to keep touring. Take my word for it I have a ticket and am going to the event. Please change ASAP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.178.49.10 (talk) 06:34, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Hulk Hogan Signed With Tna

Do we need to add a new section about Tna iCEMAN 247 —Preceding undated comment added 20:08, 27 October 2009 (UTC).

error

thers an error in hogan's return to the wwe section. it says his last date with the company was december 20 2001, but it was 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.168.27.158 (talk) 12:57, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

hmm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.78.27 (talk) 10:14, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

The Birth of Hulkamania

It is well documented that Hulk Hogan started calling his fans "Hulkamaniacs" while he was still in the AWA. There is this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsNvuvMrx6U&NR=1), for instance, showing a Hulkamania banner produced by a fan at one of Hogan's AWA matches. To suggest that the term "Hulkamania" was coined by Gorilla Monsoon is simply incorrect. I would suggest that a note be added right after the line, "Immediately after the title win, commentator Gorilla Monsoon proclaimed "Hulkamania is here!", which is the first line of the third paragraph under the subhead "The Birth of Hulkamania" to the effect that, in fact, the term Hulkamania was first heard in reference to the fans of Hulk Hogan during his final tour with the AWA promotion.

Jumpcity (talk) 07:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

photo captions

the captions for the photo's from the hulkamania tour in his move section have mispellings and grammar errors. Logan1028 (talk) 20:31, 24 November 2009 (UTC)