Talk:Honora Jenkins's will
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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 15:34, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
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that an 18th-century court case may alter the way English people write their wills during the coronavirus pandemic?Mueller, Benjamin (April 28, 2020). "Where There's a Will in England, There's a Way" – via NYTimes.com.
- Reviewed: George Pechell Mends
- Comment: Slightly late, I'm afraid. This is due to COVID-19. serial # 12:17, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Created/expanded by Serial Number 54129 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:17, 9 May 2020 (UTC).
- Nice article, long & neutral enough, & well-written. Slightly concerned about the hook, & the ref given. Does the case alter the way, or provide justification for altered ways due to COVID? Might other refs support it better? More later. Johnbod (talk) 14:00, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: Thanks for this. Apologies for the delay; I've been in Grenada. Well, the point of my "may" was to suggest that it wasn't in any sense a general, or permanent, change. Do you not approve of the NYT? I'm sure there's plenty of other hooks in the article, but I thought it would be a shame not to link it to the current pandemic (not, I hasten to add, because there's not enough COVID-19 coverage on the front page (!!!), but because there are few light-hearted mentions. Thoughts? serial # 12:53, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- No worries! Is that where the mysterious elbow was located? I'm actually happy to drag this out, as I explain at my other nom. My concern was with "alter" rather than anything else. I like the COVID angle generally. Johnbod (talk) 13:04, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: Thanks for this. Apologies for the delay; I've been in Grenada. Well, the point of my "may" was to suggest that it wasn't in any sense a general, or permanent, change. Do you not approve of the NYT? I'm sure there's plenty of other hooks in the article, but I thought it would be a shame not to link it to the current pandemic (not, I hasten to add, because there's not enough COVID-19 coverage on the front page (!!!), but because there are few light-hearted mentions. Thoughts? serial # 12:53, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, can we move on this now - thanks Johnbod (talk) 14:01, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Johnbod, where does this stand? You started the review, but haven't yet used an icon, so it's not clear whether you'll be continuing the review, want someone else to review, or what. Please let us know. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:05, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Johnbod and BlueMoonset: I'm up for some of this? ——Serial # 09:41, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hook query per above. Johnbod (talk) 14:43, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: err, "...may alter"? Is a pretty basic change, but everything else I considered—"shows/ demonstrates/ indicates another way..." just seemed much weaker. What say you? ——Serial # 08:35, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Alt1 ... that an 18th-century English court case set the precedence for the the way people write their wills during the coronavirus pandemic in the United Kingdom?--evrik (talk) 04:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)- --evrik (talk) 04:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- That seems even less justified by the sources, but "might set a precedent" seems ok. Johnbod (talk) 13:10, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- It's not about writing wills, but signing and witnessing them. What the NYT and other references support seems to me more like:
- Alt2 ... that an 18th-century court case may support altered ways of signing and witnessing English wills during the coronavirus pandemic? Mueller, Benjamin (April 28, 2020). "Where There's a Will in England, There's a Way" – via NYTimes.com.
I've covered many points of the review above, but now I'm suggesting an alt a new reviewer needs to complete. Johnbod (talk) 00:30, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- Approving Alt2. --evrik (talk) 21:06, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- Per Johnbod's review above, where it was said, "Nice article, long & neutral enough, & well-written," QPQ done, Alt2 is acceptable. Oh, and the one earwig issue was from a long quote. I'm passing this, again. --evrik (talk) 22:17, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- Evric - other matters have not been covered - for example I didn't check for copyvio. Again I'm finding your competence questionable. Johnbod (talk) 21:55, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Johnbod: this is really classic! Cheers :) but also, on a more serious note, thanks very much for sticking with this. ——Serial # 07:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Speaking of competence, if you are going to insult me, please spell my user name correctly. --evrik (talk) 22:17, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Evrik: you missed a perfect "I don't come here to be insulted" opportunity there ;) ——Serial # 07:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Evric - other matters have not been covered - for example I didn't check for copyvio. Again I'm finding your competence questionable. Johnbod (talk) 21:55, 1 July 2020 (UTC)