Talk:Homosexuality and religion/Archive 4
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"Biting the bitter peel"
Homosexuality and religion#Confucianism Really? I can't seem to find this in any Internet sources outside of reference to this Wikipedia article... PseudoSkull (talk) 23:49, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
- Removed. Mathglot (talk) 05:42, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- It can be really unfortunate when this sort of thing happens... A (presumably) wrong fact has been passed around to many other websites for years who used this Wikipedia article in their pursuit of knowledge. PseudoSkull (talk) 14:58, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Gay god
I haven't seen any source of the sources in the section that calls Tu'er Shen gay god. I tried searching in Google I also didn't find any source that calls him gay god. I started a similar discussion here Talk:Religion and sexuality. --SharabSalam (talk) 21:39, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Argument on Wicca & Neo Paganism and Satanism section
Doreen's poem or book, Charge of the Goddess Is not law. When she wrote it, I think it's fair to conclude she did not mean homosexuality. She seems to have been straight, she married two men over the course of her lifetime. If Neo Pagans and Wiccans use it well enough, fair deal, but the Wiccan rede "and it harm do what thou wilt" in basis is also coming under scrutiny as just a mere poem or guideline for early practicing witches of the craft.
If Homosexuals and such want to be Pagan, then good for them. But don't try and post sources that say it is encouraged when that may not have been the case.
In the Case of Satanism, Theistic or Laveyian, The Church of Satan has become notorious for lewd sexual acts in graveyards, in ritual and even to members of congress which can be seen via their website. I am not sure if this helps the view that Homosexuality is considered a healthy practice. If anyone reading this believes that homosexuality is a safe, encouraging and supportive healthy practice alone, then good for you, but why do we need to see what Religious doctrines before or current have to say about the matter? If the Elders say it should not be practiced then of course people for the cause are going to go elsewhere to see what religious or spiritual doctrines say on the matter.
If done for the intimacy of it, or even the personal connection and you are both exclusive with just one another, then practice, but when it comes to propaganda supporting controversial acts, i.e. Religious doctrines in support of Gay Lifestyle, it is just as controversial as the practices in question.
Personally I am both a Dark Pagan, and a Spiritual Satanist with my own "Branch of Spiritual Satanism" and the idea that Theistic Satanism supports is the exclusive version and not the power bumping grind up on you in public to get attention media crisis seen at most pride events. Anything done to get attention isn't based on Love. I also don't know of any Gods that were "Out" because Homosexuality is not of the Gods. It is of Mankind or Mammon. If you can find anything on Mammon then well, there you go.
My Branch which is personal still and not recognized as a true Church or Chapter yet, does not support Homosexuality in it's Paganism or Spiritual Satanism branches. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anamassien (talk • contribs) 02:55, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
Conversion Therapy
On the page "Homosexuality and religion," it is listed that "Several organizations assert that conversion therapy can help diminish same-sex attraction." I have added a citation needed, controversial, and dubious - talk links. However, the question is why was this not flagged or marked by any individual where a claim of several organizations are made, though no source is provided. Whoever added this should be reviewed for abuse.
PSYCHREL (talk) 22:34, 31 January 2021 (UTC)PSYCHREL
- Did you read the Conversion therapy article? Also, as far as the claim that "whoever added this should be reviewed for abuse", please remember to assume good faith, statements like that are not helpful to the project. - Adolphus79 (talk) 00:03, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Section: 'Indian' (?) religions
Shouldn't it be Dharmic religions? That is the correct way of to referring to any religion that follows the path of Dharma rather than the path of Abraham. There is no 'path of India'. Also, although they may have originated in historical Bharatavarsha, Dharmic religions are not confined to India - they are spread out all over the Subcontinent and beyond, eg Zen Buddhism in Japan, Korea, Vietnam and China. Tibetan Buddhism is practised in what is politically a part of China. Sri Lanka (Bhuddism) is not part of India. Sikhism's founder was from Punjab in Pakistan. Gaudiya Vaishnavism originated in Bengal (now Bangladesh). They are not Indian religions, they are Dharmic religions! Perhaps the only truly 'Indian religion' is Hinduism - they have the same etymological root. Wokepedian (talk) 01:24, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Untitled section
All major world religions traditionally condemn LGBTQ+. There are always progressive and reformist sects and denominations, but traditionally, religious texts have negative references to things that allude to LGBTQ+. That's why there's so much debate over these texts. You'll never find any unambiguously positive or affirming texts regarding what's known today as LGBTQ+ in any major religion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:98A:400:8910:992D:A09C:979B:6574 (talk) 07:11, 24 March 2022 (UTC)