Talk:Holy Roman Empire/Archive 8
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Sicily and the infobox map
Dear restless IP, since this seems very important to you and you interpret the source UNIO REGNI AD IMPERIUM in "Federiciana" as if Sicily was part of the Empire from 1194 until the end of the Hohenstaufen dynasty, let's discuss.
The infobox map was already discussed in two sections (1, 2) of the last archived discussion page, also in this section several years ago. One consent was that Sicily was reigned by the Hohenstaufen emperors in personal union. The given source UNIO REGNI AD IMPERIUM explains how the Hohenstaufen, especially Henry VI, claimed Sicily for the Empire, established their rule in the right of Queen Constance, but then Henry failed with his Erbreichsplan that could have united the Empire and Sicily. The source speaks of a personal union, not of Sicily as part of the Empire. Another consent in previous discussions was that the map should only include parts of the Empire, not dependencies, and in no way it should include Venice. A later discussion adressed factual errors of the previously used maps like the inclusion of Sardinia which was claimed by the Hohenstaufen one time but never actually got under their control. Palastwache (talk) 11:21, 9 February 2024 (UTC)