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Previously Holmes State Park

The purpose of Holmes Educational State Forest is as the name suggests, to educate users about forest management. This is accomplished by offering programs to school groups and adult groups such as Soils, Water, Predator Prey and Tree ID. Educational users equal or exceed recreational users, who are also numerous and use the forest for hiking, picnicking and camping.

Holmes State Park is now Holmes Educational State Forest. There are other educational forests ^[1] in North Carolina.

References

^ North Carolina Division of Forest Ressoures

Long History

Previously, "Holmes State Park" main buildings and ranger house built on acreage derived from court judgements^[1] which started in 1938 and ended in 1942 as per documents found at this link http://www.ncspo.com/fis/dbLandAsset.aspx?LandAssetID=4252&LandAsset_HistID=107&ComplexTypeID=1&CountyID=45&Complex=3&Chronology=Historical&ReturnLink*dbComplex.aspx!ComplexID*786^[2] . Click deed recordation and the documents are listed in Book: 235, Page: 593, Recordation Date: 4/12/1942,Instrumentation Type: JUDGMENT. ^[3] ^[4] ^[5] ^[6]--Magiccaptian Direct links to documents: The Judgement: http://www.ncspo.org/FISDocs/ScannedDeeds/45-005.003A.pdf^[7] The Order: http://www.ncspo.org/FISDocs/ScannedDeeds/45-005.003B.pdf^[8] The Final Decree: http://www.ncspo.org/FISDocs/ScannedDeeds/45-005.003C.pdf^[9] The Survey: http://www.ncspo.org/FISDocs/ScannedDeeds/45-005.003S.pdf^[10] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Magiccaptian (talk • contribs) 21:32, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What is different? The original Holmes State Park produced seedlings which could be re-planted. These seedlings were trees of the "pine" variety and native to North Carolina. These seedlings grew on about six acres of land and they produced thousands if not millions of new trees for the state and public. Currently the park does not produce any resource other than recreation. A tourist attraction. It has talking trees and broken helicoptor a mini fire tower and trails so steep that you can get hurt seriously. Education in enviournmental activities is greatly important in the United States and 200 acres of land for this is questionalbe. The park,as a recreational area has plenty of picnic room trails and pets are welcome but it is in need of upkeep. Improvements in this park and trail safety is needed.

|}== Civilian Conservation Corp ==

^[11]The Civilian Conservation Corp, of the 1930's, had a role in creating this park.^[12] The road that runs behind the 200+ acre parcel of land is called the CCC road. The CCC road stands for Civilian Conservation Corp(or camp). As documented in the book of A Guide to Historic Henderson County, the corp did the ground work for building a forest seedling nursery which became Holme's State Park. However, information from the North Carolina Property Office shows this (book) guide does not fully name all land owners and does not completely show how all the land was obtained.^[13] The actual judgement papers and apprasials are not clear concerning the Department of Conservation in litegation. It is clear that a lot of land owners are not recorded in the A Guide to Historic Henderson County. Other families are McCalls, and Wrights^[14]. Plus an owner of part of the property that joined the CCC road to the rest of the propety. According to the EPA^[15]the only conservation departments in North Carolina are: NC Department of Environment & Natural Resources^[16] NC Division of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance^[17] North Carolina GIS Database^[18]

References

^ 45-005.003A.pdf 1/3/2006 990,189 bytes
^ http://www.ncspo.com/fis/dbLandAsset.aspx?LandAssetID=4252&LandAsset_HistID=107&ComplexTypeID=1&CountyID=45&Complex=3&Chronology=Historical&ReturnLink*dbComplex.aspx!ComplexID*786
^ 45-005.003A.pdf 1/3/2006 990,189 bytes
^ 45-005.003B.pdf 12/20/2005 755,893 bytes
^ 45-005.003C.pdf 12/20/2005 737,463 bytes
^ 45-005.003S.pdf 12/20/2005 3,032,845 bytes
^ north carolina property office
^ north carolina property office
^ north carolina property office
^ north carolina property office Insert footnote text here
^ http://www.oldfort.org/CCC%20Camp.htm
^ A Guide to Historic Henderson County, North Carolina By Alexia Jones Helsley, George Alexander Jones
^ http://books.google.com/books?id=dFwsbCpyaH8C&pg=PA102&lpg=PA102&dq=civilian+conservation+corps+henderson+county+nc&source=bl&ots=DiZ4lum_06&sig=wot86KOc1Tnb0rD2JSKCGkMDtds&hl=en&ei=_1qcStTOLc-OtgfAvfW1BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false
^ Henderson County Deeds and NCPO
^ http://www.epa.gov/epahome/state.htm#NC
^ http://www.epa.gov/epahome/state.htm#NC
^ http://www.epa.gov/epahome/state.htm#NC
^ http://www.epa.gov/epahome/state.htm#NC

[1] North Carolina Division of Forest Ressoures

[2] 45-005.003A.pdf 1/3/2006 990,189 bytes

[3] ttp://www.ncspo.com/fis/dbLandAsset.aspx?LandAssetID=4252&LandAsset_HistID=107&ComplexTypeID=1&CountyID=45&Complex=3&Chronology=Historical&ReturnLink*dbComplex.aspx!ComplexID*786

[4] 45-005.003A.pdf 1/3/2006 990,189 bytes

[5] 45-005.003B.pdf 12/20/2005 755,893 bytes

[6] 45-005.003C.pdf 12/20/2005 737,463 bytes

[7] 45-005.003S.pdf 12/20/2005 3,032,845 bytes

[8] rth carolina property office

[9] rth carolina property office

[10] rth carolina property office

[11] rth carolina property office Insert footnote text here

[12] ttp://www.oldfort.org/CCC%20Camp.htm

[13] A Guide to Historic Henderson County, North Carolina By Alexia Jones Helsley, George Alexander Jones

[14] ttp://books.google.com/books?id=dFwsbCpyaH8C&pg=PA102&lpg=PA102&dq=civilian+conservation+corps+henderson+county+nc&source=bl&ots=DiZ4lum_06&sig=wot86KOc1Tnb0rD2JSKCGkMDtds&hl=en&ei=_1qcStTOLc-OtgfAvfW1BA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false

[15] Henderson County Deeds and NCPO

[16] ttp://www.epa.gov/epahome/state.htm#NC

[17] ttp://www.epa.gov/epahome/state.htm#NC

[18] ttp://www.epa.gov/epahome/state.htm#NC

[19] ttp://www.epa.gov/epahome/state.htm#NC

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