Talk:Holarcticesa

Requested move 20 June 2017

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The result of the move request was: page moved DrStrauss talk 06:36, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Grahamia → Grahamia (wasp) – There is also a plant genus named Grahamia which I am currently working on so it seems appropriate for there to be a disambiguation page for Grahamia to direct readers to either the wasp genus or the plant genus. http://www.theplantlist.org/browse/A/Portulacaceae/Grahamia/ Quetzal1964 05:53, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Comment – A disambiguation page isn't really necessary if there are only two articles it could point to; you could just put a hatnote on each page linking to the other. ...Unless there's no single primary topic (see WP:PRIMARYTOPIC), in which case the main article title would be the disambiguation page. V2Blast (talk) 09:33, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
~~Move Grahamia->Grahamia (insect), and Grahamia (plant)->Grahamia per WP:TWODABS~~ The plant genus, while small, seems much more notable than the insects, which are truly obscure – I can't find almost anything about them apart from database listings. Dutch wiki has the insects at nl:Holarcticesa and I'm not sure what's the accepted name. No such user (talk) 09:55, 20 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Moved to Support, and create a dab page at Grahamia per discussion below. No such user (talk) 14:03, 23 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support. There's a nematode genus, Grahamia Allgén, 1959 that has priority over the wasp, Grahamia Erdos, 1966. While the plant genus has perhaps the strongest claim to being a primary topic, I think a disambiguation page at the base title is the best solution to sort out confusion. The Universal Chalcidoidea Database (which I understand to be the de facto taxonomic authority on Wikipedia for the taxa it includes) treats the wasp Grahamia as a syonym of Holarcticesa. If the wasp Grahamia is recognized as a genus in it's own right, it will need a replacement name due to the nematode senior homonym. Plantdrew (talk) 19:51, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So that would mean move Grahamia to Holarcticesa, create a redirect Grahamia (wasp) to Holarcticesa, create Grahamia (nematode) and have a disambiguation page for Grahamia? Quetzal1964 (talk) 06:11, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I also encountered the nematodes while researching, but they are supposedly Grahamius (nl:Grahamius odhneri)? WoRMS is confusing, as it lists the species being at accepted name of Grahamius odhneri_Allgén , but lists its genus Grahamius_Gerlach as a synonym for Grahamia. No such user (talk) 09:41, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Turns out there's also a dipteran Grahamia _{Theobold 1909}. Holarctesia is a replacement name for Grahamia _Erdos. I'm guessing that Grahamius is a replacement name for Grahamia _Allgén (on top of all this there's a bacterial Grahamia Tartakowsky and another plant, Grahamia Spreng.).

We only have pages for the plant and the wasp, but I think this situation is too complex to handle with hatnotes. Move Grahamia to Holarcticesa, and create a redirect Grahamia (wasp). Then turn Grahamia into a disambiguation page. Optional to create Grahamius for the nematode and Grahamia (fly) (the fly is a apparently treated as a synonym, but I'm not finding the valid name). Plantdrew (talk) 16:12, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support clearly needs clarity. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:24, 22 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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