Talk:Holacracy/Archives/2015

Interesting article, people!

This article is interesting, but seems overly positively biased, doesn't list drawbacks of Holocracy and links to a firm specializing in consulting for this type of management structure.

Thanks for pointing it out. I replaced the link to the consulting firm by a more descriptive and general link to the authoritative source on the matter. As for "overly positively biased", I don't have the same perception. Can you maybe make or suggest edits? ankara (talk) 06:58, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

The Holacracy folks are doing a nice job of marketing the use of circles, consent, double-linking, etc., to improve organizational governance. In the spirit of open source and the public's right to know, it seems important that they continue to be clear about their history and their sources. A few citations have edited into the article to support them in being transparent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnalexanderbuck (talk • contribs) 07:25, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I think the citations added by Johnalexanderbuck were important additionsTracyK2 (talk) 22:16, 2 January 2014 (UTC)Tracy K

I think that with the additional citations this page is okay. It does not have a "critiques" section, which is a common approach for social technologies, and maybe it should have one. The data on the page now does seem verifiable and correct.NTWhitestone (talk) 12:31, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I deleted the part of the sentence that said, "Some assert that sociocracy is a decision-making method developed generally for organizations and business alike where Holacracy was specifically developed for organizations." I'm paraphrasing because i didn't save the original but this is partly untrue and partly gibberish. "Some say" should never appear in a Wikipedia article without a reference. The operational form of sociocracy was developed first to govern a residential school with 400 students and staff and then most fully in an electrical engineering corporation. It is used all over the world in all kinds of organizations. A group of people who have a purpose and a plan to accomplish it, is an organization. So I don't understand what was meant. I deleted the statement because there was no way to make the sentence accurate.Sharon Villines 00:52, 12 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharonvillines (talk • contribs)

This article, which reads too much like an advertisement, needs to be placed in context. Many of the core ideas of "holacracy" are described by Ricardo Semler in his autobiography, Maverick. They also seem similar to Sociocracy -- which is cited but without clarity as to how holacracy is different. While I believe the trademarked "holacracy" is notable enough to merit its own article, it should be placed in the context of these related topics that predate it. Otherwise this article reads too much like an ad. Dtunkelang (talk) 23:26, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

I wonder why someone keeps removing important information from this page, like the fact that Ternary Software apparently went out of business soon after Brian Robertson left it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnalexanderbuck (talk • contribs) 14:17, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

I reverted the last update by Johnalexanderbuck because it appears to be an attempt at denigrating holacracy in favor of a competing model. Wikipedia is not a place to report what "apparently" happened - please cite sources. Please don't change neutral language (i.e., "increasingly") by subjective language (i.e. "dominant"). Also, you added a claim about what holacracy is today with a reference to a 2006 correspondence — this doesn't support said claim, and if anything supports its opposite. Lastly, you made your changes sneakily by using the "minor edit" feature to avoid notifications. This move makes your edits look dishonest, please be transparent. ankara (talk) 09:24, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Glass Frog

This article doesn't mention "Glass Frog" https://glassfrog.holacracy.org/ which is the application people who want to use the Holacracy system are apparently required to use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.27.141.68 (talk) 01:30, 6 October 2015 (UTC)