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A fact from History of the extraterrestrial life debate appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 23 May 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Plato and Aristotle both opposed the idea of extraterrestrial life?

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The result was: promoted by Launchballer talk 23:01, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Plato (left) and Aristotle (right) opposed the idea of a plurality of worlds.

... that Plato and Aristotle opposed the idea of extraterrestrial life?

Source: * Crowe, Michael J. (2008). The extraterrestrial life debate Antiquity to 1915: A Source Book. University of Notre Dame Press. pp. 8–13. ISBN 978-0-268-02368-3.

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Comment: The article talks about a "plurality of worlds" (meaning, other worlds similar to Earth, including local life, that may exist elsewhere), that's just the ancient way to talk about extraterrestrial life. For the hook it may be better to use the terms that any casual reader may understand.

Moved to mainspace by Cambalachero (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 117 past nominations.

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Cambalachero (talk) 20:04, 5 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - Hook and article wording needs to be changed. It isn't entirely clear from the article if they wanted extraterrestrial life not to exist, versus they just didn't think it actually existed.

QPQ: Done.

Overall: (t · c) buidhe 00:11, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- Actually, it's both things. He didn't think alien life exists, and didn't want (because of his own biases) for it to exist. Yes, perhaps that is faulty logic, but we're talking about ancient Greece. Logic itself was still a recent concept, and some things we know take for granted in discussions (such as a basic scientific method when talking about scientific stuff, or that fallacies make a bad argument) were either new concepts or not created yet. The article makes this clear enough: the way in which the Greeks discussed their ideas, their biases, the slow development of the scientific method, etc. Cambalachero (talk) 17:06, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Alright then, if the promoter is ok with it I guess it's fine. (t · c) buidhe 01:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]