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New material

Narratives of two later analyses of the OH added, with a narrative of OH 1917 II for comparison and some concusions stashed in a Note.Keith-264 (talk) 05:09, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Collectors' Guide

Added Collectors' Guide for information.Keith-264 (talk) 06:45, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Only the Army?

Naval operations volumes also carry the title "Official History of the Great War Based on Official Documents by Direction of the Historical Section of the Committee of Imperial Defence."

Should they not be mentioned? GraemeLeggett (talk) 18:29, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Go on then and War in the Air....Keith-264 (talk) 19:24, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Great War Dustjackets has a list here Keith-264 (talk) 19:28, 27 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Made a start on the other publicationsKeith-264 (talk) 13:07, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There's 80-odd titles now but I haven't found any Foreign Office or Treasury publications. Any ideas? Oh and I moved things around to be alphabetical, like the lists in the Battery Press volumes.Keith-264 (talk) 15:38, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Additions

I'm probably going to doodle some detail about the production of the OH and rewrite or compress the Travers-Green section so as to use as much as possible for the general narrative rather than as an example using 1917 part II. Keith-264 (talk) 16:13, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've come to a dead stop to work on the unfinished Somme articles to get them done before 1 July.Keith-264 (talk) 21:19, 11 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New scans

@Keith-264: You might like to know that it looks like a big tranche of new scans has made its way onto the Internet Archive. I guess someone at one of the digitisation programs realised that since this is all Crown Copyright stuff it's happily fallen into the public domain? Anyway, I've added updates to most of the ones I could find.

Other than volumes which weren't properly published, we seem to have pretty good coverage of the main series. From the land section, we are now missing only France 1918 vol 3, Gallipoli vol 2 (there's a copy but it's weird and may be incomplete? so haven't linked it), all of Egypt/Palestine, and Italy. In the orders of battle, we have all of the original series except 3B (second volume of New Army divisions). War in the Air has everything except Vol VII (appendices) and War at Sea has everything. I haven't gone through munitions or medical properly.

I've also turned up some digitised copies of the map volumes from the main series, which I haven't linked - they're in the main citation block as eg "accompanying Map Case" so there wasn't an obvious place to add URLs.

Not sure how best to handle these but thought you might have a better idea. Andrew Gray (talk) 23:52, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent news, thanks for all this Andrew. I'm on nights this week (it's cold on that bridge) but I have the weekend off and will give it some thought. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 01:01, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Keith-264 I've added two more - the missing Italy volume plus "Casualties" from Medical (so now you can find out just how many men got chicken-pox in France in 1917, I pity the civil servant who had to write all that up...). Still some gaps, but getting there.

IA also has what looks like all of the History of the Ministry of Munitions series but I have not yet added them to the main page - the ordering seems a bit complicated and I didn't want to mess anything up. They are vol 1 & 2, 3 & 4 5 & 6, 7 & 8, 8 & 9, 10, 11, 12. Andrew Gray (talk) 18:04, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrew Gray: Thanks Andy. The MoM history is an official history but not necessarily part of the official history (apparently), no-one really knows. ;O) Keith-264 (talk) 21:25, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Ministry of Munitions

It seems to me that the History of the Ministry of Munitions is neither part of the History of the Great War nor produced by the Historical Section of the C.I.D., so maybe it's time to find somewhere else for the volumes listed for that section? Possibly Ministry of Munitions? Otherwise any departmental official history could be listed on this page which would be inaccurate and make it even longer. —Simon Harley (Talk). 05:50, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's a fair point that it's a history and official but not necessarily part of the official history but official documents about this are contradictory. I wouldn't object to the material here being duplicated elsewhere but for the sake of completeness I want to keep it in. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 07:16, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I had a look in Wells, N. J. (2011). Official Histories of the Great War 1914–1918. Uckfield: Naval & Military Press. ISBN 978-1-84574-906-4. The British histories are listed from p. 49 to p. 79, which includes the MoM histories from page 73 to 79. Not conclusive but he's a RS. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 11:59, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

copyright

Does anybody know whether the copyright of any volume has expired ? Mr.Lovecraft (talk) 11:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WL

@Keith H99: Hello Keith, it's Keith, nice to see you around, it's been a while. I think that the & is supposed to be there, It's like this on their website. Regards Keith-264 (talk) 15:06, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Keith,

Thank you for the message. I erred on the side of caution. That aside, I am surprised they did not have an article on wikipedia already. I have lost count of the articles I have edited with N&MP publications! That said, it is a simple operation, so there's not oodles to talk about, apart from their venture into digital publishing, which makes for an interesting read, as they were very innovative!

All the best Keith H99 (talk) 16:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer books made of paper but I'm keeping Libgen in business. ;O) Regards Keith-264 (talk) 17:47, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]