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53% in county boroughs

With 53% of the population in county boroughs. Is it fair to say the county councils were becoming unviable by 1971? MRSC • Talk 17:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Intro

Please do not blank the sourced info in the intro, the intro is supposed to be a general summary so its OK if some of the information is said in more detail further down the article. - Yorkshirian (talk) 08:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All those citations are already incorprated into the main body of text. If you look at the references at the bottom, your edit broke the referencing syntax. MRSC • Talk 13:29, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aside from the sections that directly repeat the article, these sections are particularly dubious:

down graded to the status of historic county with no official standing - I'm not sure this is what happened. It was(is) a historic county. You can't 'downgrade' to that
As a "county" Yorkshire and the Humber was put in its place with the aforementioned territory loses - Yorkshire and the Humber was not put in place until much later and was not intended as replacement for Yorkshire and defintitely not a "county"
while its neighbours, Lancashire and Lincolnshire were still allowed to coutinue using their traditional county name and hold official status - There isn't really any prohibition on the term "Yorkshire". Lots of organisations (official and otherwise) recognise it.

And finally, the intro text is too focussed on the Act of 1972. That isn't the only reform that has ever happened in Yorkshire and should not dominate the article. MRSC • Talk 13:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There always seems to be confusion with Yorkshire - the historic county was, for convenience sake, used as the administrative region for a long time, but is no longer. The integrity of the Ridings still exists, but people (especially younger generations) have forgotten or do not know about them. All historic counties need to be signposted and promoted, then perhpas people will remember what a local (and therefore national) identity is! 135.196.157.83 (talk) 11:58, 28 January 2014 (UTC) FW[reply]

Yorkshires 1889 - 1974

Right, here are the boundary changes per Youngs. Not sure how to format these....

West Riding

1890: Huddersfield CB absorbed Longwood USD
1895: Boundary changes with Nottinghamshire, East Riding and North Riding:
- Notts part of Auckley CP transferred to YWR
- YNR part of Lower Dunsforth CP transferred to YWR
- YNR part of Upper Dunsforth with Branton Green CP transferred to YWR
- YWR part of Humberton CP transferred to YNR
- YWR part of Milby CP transferred to YNR
- Part of Knedlington CP YER to Newland CP YWR
1899: Bradford CB extension: absorbed five urban districts: Eccleshill, Idle, North Bierley, Thornton and Tong
1900: Halifax CB extension: absorbed Northowram, Warley UDs
1901: Sheffield CB extension: part of Bradfield CP (Wortley RD) became Bradfield Urban CP
1902: Rotherham constituted CB
1912: Leeds CB extension: Leeds RD (Roundhay, Seacroft CPs) and Shadwell CP (Wethb RD) absorbed
1912: Sheffield CB extension: Tinsley CP (Rotherham RD)
1913: Barnsley and Dewsbury CBs constituted
1915: Wakefield constituted CB
1921: Barnsley CB extension: Ardsley and Monkbretton UDs absorbed
1921: Sheffield CB extension: absorbed Handsworth UD
1921: Wakefield CB extension: absorbed Lupset CP (Wakefield RD)
1927: Doncaster constituted CB
1928: Leeds CB extension: Absorbed Abel cum Eccup CP, Alwoodley CP (Wharfedale RD), Templenewsham CP (Hunslet RD)
1930: Bradford CB extension: absorbed Clayton UD
1934: Sheffield CB extension: absorbed most of Norton RD (Derbyshire)
1936: Rotherham CB extension: absorbed (most of) Greasborough UD
1937: York CB extension: absorbed (most of) Acomb CP (Gt Ouseburn RD), (part of) Dringhouses Without CP, Middlethorpe Without CP (Bishopthorpe RD),
1937: Bradford CB extension: absorbed (part of) Esholt CP (Wharfedale RD), Yeadon UD
1937: Huddersfeld CB extension: absorbed Fixby CP (Halifax RD), Golcar UD, Linthwaite UD, Stainland UD
1937: Leeds CB extension: absorbed Wigton CP (Wethb RD)
1938: Huddersfield CB extension: absorbed parts of South Crosland, Kirkheaton and Lepton UDs
1938: Sheffield CB extension: absorbed (part of) Orgreave CP (Rotherham RD)
1938: Barnsley CB extension: absorbed (part of) Worsborough UD
1951: Doncaster CB extension (part of) Cantley CP
1951: Wakefield CB extension: absorbs (part of) Crigglestone CP
1957: York CB extension: absorbed part of Askham Bryan CP
1957: Leeds CB extension: absorbed (part of) Austhorpe, Barwick in Elmet CPs
1967: Sheffield CB extension: areas exchanged with Aston cum Aughton CP, Ecclesfield CPs, parts of Beighton CP split between Sheffield CB, YWR

North Riding

1895: Exchanged areas with YWR (qv)
1913: Middlesbrough CB extension: absorbed part of Linthorpe CP (Middlesbrough RD), part of Ormesby UD
1932: Middlesbrough CB extension: absorbed part of West Acklam CP
1968: Creation of Teesside CB from Middlesbrough CB part of Eston UD, part of Redcar MB, Thornaby-on-Tees MB, Marton CP, Newby CP, (most of) Stainton CP, Hemlington CP in YNR; also gained former Stockton-on-Tees MB and parts of other CPs from Co Durham

East Riding

1895: Part of Knedlington CP to Newland CP YWR
1930: Kingston upon Hull CB extension: absorbed part of Anlaby CP, part of Bilton CP, part of Cottingham CP, part of Hessle CP, part of Sutton on Hull CP
1935: Kingston upon Hull CB extension: absorbed part of Anlaby CP, part of Bilton CP, part of Cottingham CP, part of Kirk ella CP, part of Sutton on Hull CP, part of Willerby CP
1955: Kingston upon Hull CB extension: absorbed part of Bilton CP
1968: York CB extension: absorbed part of Heslington CP
1968: Kingston upon Hull CB extension: absorbed parts of Bilton, Wawne CPs

Lozleader (talk) 17:44, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. Thanks for that! I suggest:

create a table or bulleted list of transfers between Yorkshire and other counties
create a table of internal transfers between ridings
summarise in text the continous expansion of CBs (no need for too much details - perhaps just give two or three examples over time)

Also we could include more details of population too. What % of Yorkshire were in the CBs in 1901, 1931 etc. (we have 1971 only at the moment). MRSC • Talk 18:43, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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