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The preceding three lines are inaccurate. The rapier first appears in Spain in the late 1400's --evident in portraiture-- as a civilian weapon designed to favor the thrust. This really marks the beginning of "fencing" as we know it. What's "modern" depends on who's doing the talking and when. By the 16th century the rapier is addressed in fencing books and in Shakespeare plays. While the Spaniards were regarded as dangerous adversaries, the Spanish School was overshadowed (except in Spain) first by the Italians and later by the French. To say that the "Spanish School didn't become dominant until the 19th Century" is a gross misstatement. It's actually the opposite. The smallsword that became popular in the 18th century is a development from or variation of the rapier -- not necessarily an "improvement" on it -- increasingly optimized for the thrust over the cut. The "sport"of fencing, codified in the 19th century, is -- or at least was -- based on the use of the smallsword in the duel. Respectfully, A.A. Crown, Maitre d'Armes, www.classicalfencing.com

This editorial comment was added in this IP edit, but is more appropraite on the talk page. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:21, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]