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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:48, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • ... that the first recorded debt cancellation took place 4,400 years ago in Sumer and that personal debt was cancelled regularly in the Ancient Middle East? Source: Hudson, Michael (2018). ... And Forgive Them Their Debts. ISLET-Verlag. pp. 29–30. ISBN 9783981826029.

Created by Alaexis (talk). Self-nominated at 07:42, 28 June 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/History of debt relief; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - Generally, the hook fact (between "... that" and the question mark) should be written so the fact could stand alone as a complete sentence if you removed "... that" and the question mark. In particular, "the first recorded debt cancellation took place 4,400 years ago in Sumer and that personal debt was cancelled regularly in the Ancient Middle East" is not a complete sentence. It seems like you're trying to combine two facts in the same hook.
  • Alternatively, I'd remove "that" from the middle of the sentence, as in
    • ALT3: ... that the first recorded debt cancellation took place 4,400 years ago in Sumer, and personal debt was cancelled regularly in the Ancient Middle East?
  • However, I find ALT3 to be less interesting because it's overly lengthy, so I suggest ALT1 and ALT2 instead.
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Alaexis: Nice work. I had a query about the wording of the hook itself, but everything else looks good. Epicgenius (talk) 17:59, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing the nomination! Let's use ALT2 then, I like it more. Alaexis¿question? 19:58, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. Since I can't approve a hook that I proposed myself, I'll let someone else review the hook. Epicgenius (talk) 22:41, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Epicgenius: Ancient Near East or Ancient Middle East? There seems to be a disagreement between the hook and article... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 05:29, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
theleekycauldron, thanks for catching this. The usual term is Ancient Near East, so the correct version would be
... that personal debt was cancelled regularly in the Ancient Near East? Alaexis¿question? 08:51, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good! Approving... :3 F4U (they/it) 18:56, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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