Talk:History of Unitarianism

Suggested amendment to "Precursor movements and early Unitarianism" in the US section

The first Unitarian congregation was 1742 under Samuel Mathers, who seceded with 90 members of his father's Second Church, a.k.a. "Old North" (NOT Christ Church, Boston, by the way) in 1742. King's Chapel is 40 years later. I'm not Unitarian and so don't feel I should amend the article at the moment, without more background, but someone should be looking into that and fixing it; there are references in the UUA library on Beacon St. to back this up.108.20.74.63 (talk) 10:57, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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[Unitarian Members of Parliament in the Nineteenth Century. D. W. Bebbington ... https://dspace.stir.ac.uk/.../Unitarian%20MPs%20in%20the%20Nineteenth%20Century%20Paper.pdf Here] is an excellent list of about 100 British "Unitarian Members of Parliament in the Nineteenth Century." Also perhaps here.BrainyBabe (talk) 00:01, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

About my edit on the group called "German Unitarians"

The information I have entered is not vandalism or unsubstantiated.

There are known ties between the "German Unitarians" founders and the Nazi Party. In fact, most of its founders were members of the Nazi party and were heavily involved with Nazi religious groups. They were active in the organization till well into the 1980s and maybe beyond that. The image used by "German Unitarians" up to this day is closely related to Nazi imagery. I have quoted in my edits two studies that confirm this relation: - a study made by the current leader of the Austrian Unitarian-Universalist Forum, Ali Gronner, which can be found here: http://www.unitarier.at/Dur02.pdf - a whole chapter dedicated to the "German Unitarians" history (chapter 5) in Peter Kratz´book, Die Götter des New Age, published in 1994 in Berlin. There are literally dozens of articles, both on the web or on print that corroborate what I am saying.

So please stop editing out my contribution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denaturadeorum (talk • contribs) 08:55, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You need to add citations to the "facts" you added to the article. With books and long pdfs you need cite page numbers, not just the whole book.--Toddy1 (talk) 10:07, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

By the way "forum websites" do not count as reliable sources.--Toddy1 (talk) 10:16, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So what is a reliable source for you? And what about presenting facts that contradict what I have written? Have I written anything which is historically false? If this is the case, please feel free to show me I am wrong. Otherwise, stop deleting my edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denaturadeorum (talk • contribs) 13:58, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have put the two sources you gave into Wikipedia format for citations. I have added two citation needed tags. I suspect that the source published on the forum website will be deleted by someone because of how it was published. See Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. You may find Wikipedia:Citing sources worth reading.--Toddy1 (talk) 17:44, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It is though the best available, neutral study about their Nazi past. The author quotes from several printed publications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.192.184.220 (talk) 17:58, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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