Talk:History of Palestinian nationality

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This page is very promising. You provide a clear chronological structure.

Please list your references in full.
A short introduction paragraph at the beginning of the page would be useful.
The brief history section is unnecessary, as it is available elsewhere and doesn't contribute directly to the topic of the article.
You might want to refer to the citizenship situation of Palestinians under the Ottomans, before the British mandate.
You could link to the History of Israeli Nationality and Arab citizens of Israel pages.
You will want to say more about the situation of Palestinians in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and elsewhere. The broader question of the diaspora, its political representation, and its claim to a right of return also deserves attention.
Your discussion of travel documents is important. Perhaps you could create a section dealing specifically with this topic.
Now that you have the political narrative of citizenship, what can you say about other kinds of practices and issues such as social and civil rights?

Will Hanley (talk) 03:17, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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In December 2007, Isarig (who had continued to edit outside the I/P topic) confessed to operating the sock-puppets Teens! and Clintonesque and was granted the right to vanish according to this deletion log and Isarig is no longer with us, wherein it is said "The user have been explained not to come back editing again as per WP:RTV, a thing they agreed to."

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As regards current efforts to improve History of Palestinian nationality, this notification may lead editors to examine this diff which may have been an effort to introduce distortions to the encyclopedia. 86.159.67.125 (talk) 20:18, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is a soapbox article

The whole point of this article is to try to change the etymology of the word "Palestinian." The article itself is NPOV. We don't need it. The issues it addresses are best left up to articles like Palestinian people.

I propose deleting this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.160.54.152 (talk) 02:20, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with the lead

Per WP:LEAD, "The lead should be able to stand alone as a concise overview of the article." At present it does not do so, providing instead information (whether true or false) that is not covered in the article body. This is misleading and it needs to be re-written. Regards, RJH (talk) 17:02, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~== Citizens without a State == Although "statelessness" is a concept that can be well addressed in this article, the paragraph that sits under "Citizens without a State" is confusing and polemic.~~

~~To the chop block? Modinyr (talk) 22:28, 28 October 2011 (UTC)~~[reply]

Merger

Join the merge proposal discussion HERE.
(*Following a non-active move proposal of this article, i revive it and propose to merge it into History of the Palestinian people, since "History of Palestinian nationality" is essentially the last chapter of the Palestinian Arab history and largely overlaps the Palestinian nationality (there are almost no non-Arab Palestinian citizens in the Palestinian Authority and the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip). Please vote "Support" or "Oppose" with a proper explanation.Greyshark09 (talk) 20:13, 7 March 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Confusing quote

The phrase "It granted every "Jew" who immigrated to Israel, or, following the 1971 amendment, even expressed the desire to immigrate to Israel, "immediate" Israeli citizenship without taking any formal steps." is unsourced and incorrect. There is a process for immigration, it isn't granted for expressing the desire. Being Jewish doesn't guarentee that the process will even be successful.

I'm concerned this was done as an attempt to spread a dual citizen libel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WhereIGotLost (talk • contribs) 04:01, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

5th Century BC

Why are there records from 5th century BC documenting palistina located in what is called the Holy Land, if the palistinians only showed up with the say so the western world. 104.224.113.137 (talk) 23:12, 25 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Need to add new citation for this section OR delete the information:

are therefore denied equal "democratic citizenship". While enjoying the fruits of Jewish civil rights (such as access to courts of law and private property) and political rights (access to the ballot and to government) they are denied social rights and economic rights in the form of social security, education and welfare, or access to land and water resources of the State 2600:6C48:6B3F:76F9:A9:C45F:B818:744E (talk) 02:18, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. Brendan ❯❯❯ Talk 04:47, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

how is someone who isn't EC supposed to obtain consensus? FourPi (talk) 11:57, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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In

"but are excluded from several aspects of the Jewish welfare state and are therefore denied equal "democratic citizenship". While enjoying the fruits of Jewish civil rights (such as access to courts of law and private property) and political rights (access to the ballot and to government) they are denied social rights and economic rights in the form of social security, education and welfare, or access to land and water resources of the State.[11]"

Delete from "they are denied..." to end of para and replace with

"The general provision of welfare and health care is given irrespective of origin to all Israelis including Palestinian citizens of Israel who participate in the relevant schemes (mostly subscription based). Education is divided at elementary and secondary level but Palestinian citizens of Israel, attend Israeli Universities without entry discrimination. There are reports of limited access to funding due to an eligibility gap, arising from the reality of Palestinian citizens of Israel typically not serving in the IDF.

Israeli socioeconomic services and education are not open to Palestinians within the OPT i.e. who reside in Palestinian Authority controlled areas and Gaza." 51.6.100.76 (talk) 22:34, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 01:46, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]