Talk:History of Liverpool F.C. (1985–present)
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Reviewer: TBrandley (talk · contribs) 05:20, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
I myself am a Chelsea fan, but nevertheless, will still be reviewing the article. TBrandley 05:51, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
- Don't use words like "current" per WP:RELTIME
- Same goes for "present"
- Link "Liverpool" in lede image per WP:REPEATLINK
- the guideline doesn't state its necessary, seeing as the link is opposite anyway, I don't see a need for it. NapHit (talk) 00:05, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- Check for your consistency with numbers, in one you say "fifth" and in another you say "18th", please check and fix per WP:MOSNUM
- "The team improved under Evans" change to "The team improved when Evans was the team's manager" for prose
- added stewardship. NapHit (talk) 00:05, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- "At the start of the 2010–11 season Liverpool" missing comma after "season"
- "Liverpool started the season" which season? It isn't noted before in this section.
- "At the start of the 1986–87 season it" missing comma after "season"
- "but they were" change to "but were" for prose
- I think it reads better this way NapHit (talk) 00:05, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- "At the end of the season Dalglish" missing comma again, please check
- I don't think a comma is needed there, sentence reads fine to me without one NapHit (talk) 00:05, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- "he only won three of" remove "only" per WP:NPOV
- "the Kop" isn't real name "Spion Kop", as done in image caption, note there please
- "by Union of European Football Associations (UEFA)" usually meets WP:ACRO, but in this case, hasn't "UEFA" already been mentioned firstly above, and therefore after should be referred by the short name, in this case, "UEFA". If not, only the actual name should linked, without the bracket short name
- its only mentioned along with the Champions League in the lead so I think its fine NapHit (talk) 00:03, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- "£8.5" it is the UK pound obviously, but should be noted anyway as the pound, if some don't know
- the use of the pound symbol should signify its the pound, no need for other stuff. NapHit (talk) 00:05, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- Link "West Ham United" in image per WP:REPEATLINK
- "British Broadcasting Corporation" should not be spelled out fully per WP:ACRO guideline
- As there is currently a banner stating the section that refers to the guideline you mentioned, is under dispute, I'm going to leave this. Also, I really don't have the time to go through every reference and change it to BBC. NapHit (talk) 00:03, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
- Some references are missing parameters, like ref. 50, it is missing accessdate, and they could be more, like authors, etc., please check all. It was only that one I think though.
- done i think NapHit (talk) 00:05, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- Why is the location parameter only used for some The Guardian sources? Should be used with all news sources, including this one, all per WP:CITE
- think i've got them NapHit (talk) 00:05, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
- Any external links?
Overall; very good job. Once the above issues are addressed, I will pass the article based on the good article criteria. Well done! TBrandley 05:51, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time to review this TBrandley. I'm currently in Australia without permanent acess to a computer, but I'll try and fix these issues over the coming days. NapHit (talk) 06:20, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
- No problem! I will pass the article based on your changes. TBrandley 04:18, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
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[edit]The section titles could be improved. Is there anything to distinguish "1998–2006: Fluctuating fortunes" from "2006–15: Ups and downs"? I think it would be better to divide the sections based on the tenure of the managers, combining some of those with shorter terms.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 19:07, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think the sections should be based on the tenure of the manager. It would get too confusing combining shorter terms with longer ones. The way it works now is fine. I agree, the section titles can be improved. You've made a good point about 1998-2006 and 2006-15, they're essentially saying the same thing, although that is an accurate reflection of what the club experienced during those years. I'll try and re word them so they're better. NapHit (talk) 10:36, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
- It already is based primarily on the tenure of the managers: 1985 was when Dalglish took over, 1990 is when he left, 1998 was when Houllier was appointed and 2015 is when Klopp started. I just think the section titles should reflect that and Benítez's term shouldn't be split between two sections.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 19:22, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
- Well, in that case, I guess you could move the start of his tenure to the next section instead of having it in the second section. That seems like an easy solution to the problem you've posed. NapHit (talk) 21:02, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
- It already is based primarily on the tenure of the managers: 1985 was when Dalglish took over, 1990 is when he left, 1998 was when Houllier was appointed and 2015 is when Klopp started. I just think the section titles should reflect that and Benítez's term shouldn't be split between two sections.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 19:22, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
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