Talk:History of Germans in Poland

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Copyright problems

This article has been reverted to version as of 27 January 2012 to facilitate cleanup of a copyright problem. Content added by User:Silar duplicates multiple external sources. For instance, see:

These are only several of manypassages he placed in this article which precisely duplicated external publications.

In accordance with copyright policy and Terms of Use, we may not duplicate previously published content, aside from brief and clearly marked quotations, unless they are demonstrably public domain or compatibly licensed. Please see Wikipedia:Copy-paste. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:57, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There's more. I found some other sources which were also plagiarized, in particular this one [4]. I don't have time right now to check the whole article.VolunteerMarek 12:18, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

article needs a clean-up

The structure and the text of the article seems mixed up, such the whole sentence in brackets in the first paragraph. Needs a thorough clean-up, the current state is an embarrassing mess of the messy German-Polish relations. Also, the article seems to be tilted to a Polish perspective. E.g. the Ostsiedlung should be referred to, and the massive enforced population shift of 1945-50 should be mentioned — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.9.115.196 (talk) 12:08, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 5 June 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Pages moved. (non-admin closure) 2pou (talk) 15:01, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

– By WP:DEFINITE and WP:CONCISE, the use of "the" should be dropped from these titles because it simply is not necessary to convey the topics of the articles. Additionally, the use of the definite article in these cases is clunky and should not be in use per WP:NATURALNESS. For now, we can disregard the "political correctness" argument that using the definite article to refer to ethnic groups in certain cases is "othering" and a social wrong. While I personally think this argument is compelling, the true test of whether referring to "Germans" with "the" is acceptable can simply be conducted by looking at the wider media: In 2019, news articles mentioning "the Germans" were a minority (33.0%) of articles mentioning "Germans". By WP:COMMONNAME, the titles of the articles should be changed to reflect this usage by the media. Mysterymanblue (talk) 00:24, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support 100% (and Support other similar moves) per WP:DEFINITE, WP:CONCISE, and especially WP:NATURALNESS and WP:CONSISTENT. You wouldn't say "I learned about the history of the Americans", you say "history of Americans" – and this isn't any different! (You're right, it sounds almost pejorative and othering with a "the".) Paintspot Infez (talk) 03:22, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Cultural heritage

This section needs a linguistic review and is utterly unclear --Tino Cannst (talk) 19:41, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

things to add

reference to border shifts and to expulsion of Germans should be added --Tino Cannst (talk) 19:42, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Appropriate map

@GizzyCatBella: My understanding: "History of Germans in Poland" should be on Germans in today's Polish borders, whereas German minority in Poland should be on state of Germans in previous Polish states in different borders.

Therefore, the map showing German language Polish census of 1931 is irrelevant here. Instead a map showing traditional language distribution in today's Polish borders as far west as Odra and Nysa must be given - as e.g. c:File::Polish language in 1910.png does. Maybe remove the old borders from there and overlay present ones. --Tino Cannst (talk) 20:16, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]