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A fact from Historia Ecclesie Abbendonensis appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 26 January 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Historia Ecclesie Abbendonensis, a 12th century chronicle from Abingdon Abbey, describes the collapse of the abbey's church tower and the narrow escape the monks had?

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Chronicon Angliae Petriburgense

I notice that this article includes the Chronicon as an example of "monastic histories written during the middle and later parts of the 12th century" in southern England. This is in a paragraph cited to Antonia Gransden's Historical Writing in England c. 550–c. 1307, pp. 269–270: I haven't seen this volume in more than 20 years, and the Google Books preview is omitting relevant pages for me. Searching for this chronicle in Google Books' limited preview of Gransden is problematical because she has, unfortunately, mis-spelt "Petriburgense"; but searching instead for "Angliae" produces only one relevant result, on p. 239, n. 156. Would someone please check this for me – while the Chronicon Angliae Petriburgense dates not from the 12th century but the 14th, a better fit for this paragraph would be the history of Peterborough Abbey by Hugh Candidus (Mellows, W.T. (ed.), The Chronicle of Hugh Candidus a Monk of Peterborough, OUP, 1949). According to my personal sources, on p. 272 Gransden includes Hugh's history among "command histories", a standard pattern of monastic chronicle produced in southern England in the 12th century. Cheers. Nortonius (talk) 14:03, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It'll be a bit before I can double check this. If I don't get to it in a few days, prod me. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:54, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks Ealdgyth, no hurry obv! Nortonius (talk) 15:05, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. I got lucky today – Google Books is letting me see p. 214, n. 156[1] – can this be the same "n. 156" that I reported above as being on p. 239?! Maybe ... But the Google Books preview is of an unnumbered 1996 edition, which would always worry me. Anyway, it's of interest to me because she accepts uncritically an attribution of the Chron. Ang. Petriburgense to "John of Peterborough". If she addresses that attribution directly anywhere, I'd be very grateful for details! Nortonius (talk) 14:38, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ealdgyth, has it been a few days? No worries if you're still busy. Nortonius (talk) 09:24, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ping! Sorry, I don't mean to be annoying ... :o) Nortonius (talk) 15:25, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

it appears those sources have been packed, unfortunately. No idea when I’ll unearth them. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:57, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I'll try to find another way, cheers. Nortonius (talk) 16:09, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]