Talk:Highway location marker

On 3 April 2013, it was proposed that this article be moved from Highway route markers to Highway location marker. The result of the discussion was page moved.

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This article grew out of a discussion on the milestone page when that article was extended to include kilometre-based route markers as well as mile-based route markers. Some Wikipedians felt that this was stretching the topic too far. I checked equivalent articles in other languages and it appeared that the consensus was that milestones should refer specifically to miles. Hence this article. Martinvl (talk) 19:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is neccessary to show dual units for every occurance of the word mile, kilometre or metre? I have consequently trimmed the conversions down to bring them into line with WP:UNITS which states "Generally, conversions to and from metric units and US or imperial units should be provided, except: When inserting a conversion would make a common expression awkward (The four-minute mile)." I interpret this to mean that conversions are not needed if the unit of measure is the driver of the expression. I also removed the the mph conversion for the section on Dutch hectometerpaalen on grounds that the actual value of 120 km/h is not important the important part of the sentence - the important part of the sentence is that the post in question signifies something different to the national speed limit.

Also, when using imperial units in the UK to measure road distances, we use yards not feet. Martinvl (talk) 14:37, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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New England road marking system

The New England road marking system appears to be an early highway shield numbering system, not an early mile marker - unless the phone poles they were place on were exactly one mile apart. Wbm1058 (talk) 21:30, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In other words, an early route marker, not an early highway route marker. Highway route markers needs moved to a less ambiguous title, like reference marker or distance marker posts (driver location signs). Wbm1058 (talk) 22:08, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Miniapolis 19:30, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Highway route markers → Highway location marker – To disambiguate from route marker and highway shield. Relisted. BDD (talk) 23:57, 18 April 2013 (UTC) Wbm1058 (talk) 18:50, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Route markers are usually highway shields. This is about mile markers and similar location devices. --Triskele Jim 15:00, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Italian route marker

Oppose Route markers are not usually highway shields, at least not where I live (the UK). AS far as I can make out, highway shield are route identifiers, not a route markers. Martinvl (talk) 16:00, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That "Italian route marker" is actually an Autostrade of Italy highway shield, per current Wikipedia terminology. The UK rarely uses confirming markers, as you're rarely very far from the next direction, position, or indication sign. In the example picture, the blue box with "M1,M4" inside it is the British equivalent of a highway shield. If you think moving highway shield → route marker would help clear up the confusion, I'm open to that. – Wbm1058 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mile marker. Apteva (talk) 23:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Would that make sense, given that the article is mostly non-US? Dicklyon (talk) 04:02, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The US MUTCD calls them "Reference Location Signs." I'd be interested in the terms used in the official manuals of other countries. It could be there is some commonality.--Triskele Jim 15:34, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In the United Kingdom, "Location Marker Posts" and "Driver location signs" - see here for a supplier. Martinvl (talk) 15:51, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It would seem that "location" is the key word that is commonly used based on the prior two comments. Also just to clear the discussion, it does not seem like we're proposing any changes or discussion regarding route marker and highway shield which may or may not have issues. But rather simply discussing if there is a better COMMONNAME for Highway route markers. Tiggerjay (talk) 12:10, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I did most of the writing of the section - in order to keep things under control I only listed highway route markers that contained three items of information. As I see it, there is scope to extend the highway shields article to include non-shields such as the Italian octogan or the South African pentagon. Martinvl (talk) 13:19, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support The original proposal sounds like the best solution. A similar title, such as Location marker, would probably be fine as well. --BDD (talk) 16:21, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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