Talk:High yellow

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[In what world is High Yellow offensive?]

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And they really don't reference how Indian's also have issues with this skin tone thing. It's not just AA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.5.254.14 (talk) 18:16, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They are both offensive - High Yellow and Darkie! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.5.254.14 (talk) 18:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps this should include a segment about the fact that "high yellow" is now a very offensive term.

By whom? this is like saying darkie

Red Bone

The term red bone also reffers to the light hue of an african american. Maybe this should also be added?

"African-American?"

If she was YELLOW, that means she was not BLACK. She was interracial. The ODR didn't even apply in Texas at that time. Please stop hijacking everyone that has even a trace of Negroid ancestry for the silly "AA" catagory!! JBDay 04:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What insult?

There is no way in Hell that I will ever believe that High yellow is an insult. The opposite is true. Velocicaptor 00:37, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Ralph Bunche is the best example of a successful High yellow. Velocicaptor 14:12, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My first introduction to the term was from a black pastor, very well educated, who described the use to me, with absolutely no indication that it was offensive, just antiquated, a part of his cultural background. he himself could probably be considered high yellow, and i believe he mentioned that. its definitely not as insulting as the n word, and was used by african americans to indicate those among them of lighter skin tone: different, but not necessarily bad. I dont know about white use of the term.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:34, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Needs citations

This has been around since 2004, and it still doesn't have any citations? Searching Google brings up a hit in Urban Dictionary, hits in some blogs, and a reference to an article in Essence from 2004, plus lots of hits related to birds and geckos. But there's a reference to Alexander Dumas in Time Magazine that might help. [1]

This is really a "dictdef", a dictionary definition, and should be moved (transwikied) to Wictionary. --John Nagle 05:49, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I think that the use of this term is so specific to cultural context that using a random light-skinned person with black ancestry to illustrate it is misleading.

The application of the term to any particular person should be sourced. I'm sure a photo can be found of someone to whom the term was actually applied while it was current.

Dybryd 07:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

including material on genetics?

I notice that some material on genetics has been added and removed a couple of times. Can we discuss it here before making the change again?

I have no position on the inclusion myself. The term "high yellow" is a cultural one, not a biological one - it doesn't automatically apply to light-skinned blacks any more than "cracker" automatically applies to whites. However, the facts of skin color are obviously of some tangential relevance.

Dybryd 02:14, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In the article there seem to be some misunderstandings regarding genetics. One I saw in the article is that one skin color is genetically dominant over another. Is there a scientific reference for this statement? It certainly doesn't appear that way from observation.

Many traits are not due to simple dominant/recessive genetics, but rather are due to a degree of mixture between the two alleles inherited, one from each parent (Incomplete Dominance, Penetration, etc. in the parlance of classical geneticists). Additionally, many traits are the products of multiple genes, which greatly increases the complexity of the analysis. Finally, epigenetics is also a possible complication to this idea as well. In short, it is quite likely that one's observed skin color is the product of both parents, and certainly in day-to-day life, it seems pretty clear that progeny are midway between the parents. Of course, something else that can complicate the observation of this is that a significant number of children born each year have a different biological father than they think they do... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.173.82.81 (talk) 19:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notable People

I believe that this section is problematic. I think that, at the very least, each entry should have a source; but since the term is considered derogatory I would argue that this list is inappropriate. If there's no objection I intend to blank this section.— James Estevez (talk) 03:27, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Section deleted. — James Estevez (talk) 05:55, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted the reinsertion of this section. My objection still stands, and I invite editors to discuss their reasons for re-inserting it.— James Estevez (talk) 00:59, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It Started With Eve (1941)

There was a line by the African American train porter, as Deanna Durbin told him not to forget her yellow bag. "High yellow, that's my favorite color!" he replied with a smile.24.253.195.42 (talk) 18:03, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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It seems perverse

that no color pictures to illustrate are included Talastra (talk) 18:49, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This Whole Description Is Wrong

High yellow isn’t a lightskin or anything mixed with white. High yellow means a black person with a lighter complexion. It was used as derogatory term to make other African Americans feel bad about being “whiter” Easily confused by white Americans and the younger generation. It has its roots in house slaves, masters preferred to have lighter slavers work inside while the darker slaves did the hardest labour…this is likely why it is considered an insult. Hopefully y’all will correct this. Source:my dad, an African American born in 1939, and kin of Alex Haley, author of Roots. A Lightskin (talk) 10:41, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]