Talk:High diving

"Physics"

"In the world championships, men jump from a 27-metre-high (89 ft) platform while women jump from a 20-metre-high (66 ft) platform. In other official competitions, men generally dive from a height of 22–27 metres (72–89 ft) while women dive from a height of 18–23 metres (59–75 ft).[3] The sport is unique in that athletes are often unable to practice in an authentic environment until the days leading up to a competition.[1] High divers have achieved speeds of descent of 96 kilometres per hour (60 mph)."

Well, that doesn't add up. At least not on god 'ole mother earth where acceleration is ~10m/s² (9,81m/s²). From 27m with g = 10m/s² you could only reach ~84 km/h. That's and that's without air drag. To get to 96 km/h you would need to jump from ~36m. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8070:4283:79E0:3D21:D609:4774:1937 (talk) 04:53, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

"a colloquial synonym for diving from a 3m board"

Are you sure? I always understood it to be this sort of thing. There is even a world high diving federation —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arbus Driver (talk • contribs) 19:13, 21 January 2010

No, I am not sure, which is why I have not edited Diving. I've glanced at several diving rule books on Google Books. Some suggest that 'high diving' is diving from the higher of two spring boards (3m), some suggest that it is any platform diving, and some suggest that it is diving from the highest platform (10m). I don't know enough about the sport to interpret these different suggestions. Cnilep (talk) 15:12, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

"[H]igh diving debuted as a sport at the 2013 World Aquatics Championships"... well, maybe some form of high diving with a certain set of rules, but high diving as defined in the article: "the act of diving into water from relatively great heights" has been around for many years, and has been in the Olympics since the 1960s, of my personal knowledge. Somebody needs to work on this, or it is nonsense. 173.174.85.204 (talk) 01:11, 4 October 2015 (UTC) Eric

September 2015 GOCE Copyedit

I have just gone through this article and made a few edits to improve the flow of sentences. I noticed that heights and speeds were given in both metric and U.S. units. I put in conversion templates just to see the results, but the formatting has to be neatened up. I thought I'd wait to do that until there was consensus on which measurement units (related to which style of English) is to be used in this article.

There are a few things that need to be cleared up or explained.

1) It is not clear whether this article is about the kind of competitive high diving that is done at the Olympics or is a separate sport that involves really great heights, or both. If it is about both, I think the distinction needs to be made clearer. Right now, the article seems to be two different types of diving, but they're not kept separate.

2) In the health implications section (which doesn't really have much information in it), we read:

• To avoid injury to their arms, divers enter the water feet first.

However, the photos of divers suggest that the divers will be entering the water head first, as in Olympic diving. Perhaps divers enter the water feet first when diving from really great heights. Do we have any diving editors? Corinne (talk) 15:51, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

To your first point, I would think that SI units would be primary here since the article is not closely tied to any single country. WP:Units covers how to handle units from sources that don't correspond to the article's primary units. Your second 2 points are both questions I was wondering myself, so I unfortunately won't be of much help there. Ry's the Guy ^{(talk|contribs)} 17:17, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

I have performed some edits to address the concerns above about further separating content. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 17:21, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Sourcing

I don't think the article should rely on a tabloid like the Daily Mail. There surely must be better sources out there? --John (talk) 20:02, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

I completely agree, though I don't think that reference should have been removed from the article without replacing it with something more reliable. The information supported by that reference is not controversial and unlikely to be incorrect, so keeping the reference until a better one is found does not decrease the quality of the article. In fact, the wording of a less-reliable source might actually help in finding something more reliable, rather than having to rely only on the paraphrased wording of the Wikipedian who made the contribution. This would be especially true in situations where text gets reworded repeatedly by different editors in a way that subtly changes its meaning. Since this article has been significantly reworded by 4–5 different users in the last week, it's certainly a possibility here. In summary, I think that the article would be strengthened by updating this reference with one that is more reliable, but is weakened by its removal. Ry's the Guy ^{(talk|contribs)} 10:41, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Why doesn't the world record table include people who jumped off the golden gate bridge and survived?

Here's a news record of an intentional jump which makes it world record worthy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9pEa1gqdu8

Just like Leo Schaller, they are not high divers, just idiots jumping off a bridge/cliff. I don't understand why Schaller is on a list with high divers, it is an insult to all real high divers. I removed him but my edit was removed. Joakim Quensel (talk) 19:26, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

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Removal of Laso Schaller

As this article is specifically about high diving and Laso Schaller's jump is not considered a high dive, I've moved it to the correct article - cliff jumping. As there is a dedicated article this makes sense, however if reliable sources can be found describing Schaller's jump specifically as a high dive this may have reason to be added back in. Garchy (talk) 16:04, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Of course there is no such source. A high dive is at least one flip in the air, no protective bodysuit and getting out of the water yourself. Having the clown Schaller on this list is a dishonor to the real high divers. Joakim Quensel (talk) 07:50, 5 February 2018 (UTC)