Talk:High Society (composition)

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Requested move

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move. Station1 (talk) 05:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

High Society (Porter Steele) → High Society (composition) — Correct disambiguation qualifier. - Jafeluv (talk) 18:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Neutral. I see nothing wrong with "Porter Steele"; many Wikipedia pages are disambiguated by the name of the author or composer. That said, I see nothing objectionable about "High Society (composition)" either. -- Infrogmation (talk) 20:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Any additional comments:

I moved this to High Society (song), but was reverted on the grounds that it's not a song. In my opinion the current disambiguation qualifier, "Porter Steele", is a poor one, since it doesn't give the reader any context (unless they know who Porter Steele is, in which case they probably already know what "High Society" is). The tune does have lyrics, but they're hardly ever performed, so maybe the best qualifier would be "composition" instead of "song". Jafeluv (talk) 18:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Saying the tune has lyrics is IMO being over generous to Mr. Melrose; as far as I can tell there were no lyrics for the first 20 + years, they were added in a possibly dubious move by Melrose to try to claim part of the copyright royalties. I've heard High Society on hundreds of recordings and hundreds of live performances, always as an instrumental. Possibly someone somewhere has performed it with lyrics since Melrose's office, but if so, I haven't even heard a rumor about it. -- Infrogmation (talk) 20:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- In that case it should probably be "(composition)". In fact, a song is also a composition, so it's not exactly inaccurate regardless of whether someone somewhere uses the lyrics or not. Jafeluv (talk) 08:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Recorded versions

I've removed this section from the article. It's a very widely recorded tune, and I'm unsure why these two versions are chosen out of the hundreds of examples (including by such notables as Louis Armstrong, Kid Ory, Pete Fountain, Irving Fazola, etc). I'd say the Morton version is fairly notable (though others are equally so), but I'm unaware of unusual importance for the "Big Chief Jazz Band" version- if there's a reason to single it out for special attention, it should be explained. -- Infrogmation (talk) 01:56, 29 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Big Chief Jazz Band. Recorded in Oslo on June 7, 1955. Released on the 78 rpm record Philips P 53032 H.
Jelly Roll Morton's New Orleans Jazzmen recorded in New York, 14 September 1939. This has two versions of the clarinet solo, played in succession by Sidney Bechet and Albert Nicolas.