Talk:Hey You (Pink Floyd song)

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Notability

I'm wondering if Pink Floyd's title of this song really deserves this page. According to allmusic.com a search of "Hey You" returned 212 results, of which approximately 35+ are unique songs by other bands. Given Pink Floyd is likely the most popular band of these, but something just doesn't sit right with me about this. -- Malo 01:04, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That's what we have disambiguation pages for. Articles on the other songs would be named, e.g. Hey You (BANDNAME song). We then create a disambiguation page at Hey You (disambiguation) and at the top of this one, put a small note indicating that, for other songs of the same name, the visitor ought to see the disambiguation page. Rob Church ^{Talk | FAHD} 14:18, 22 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Popularity aside, Pink Floyd had "Hey You" out long before Shakira or The Exies or whomever. 128.226.230.51 18:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Film Sequence

Removed this from the main article:

Although a sequence of film was recorded for this song, it was removed from the final movie because it was too depressing. This film sequence was later lost in a fire.

The reason this footage was not used was not because it was "too depressing", rather, it didn't fit in with the rest of the film, and caused the thing to drag out too long. Interestingly enough, the sequence is available on the DVD version of the film, so perhaps it was not completely lost, either - granted, when Waters looked for it in later years, he couldn't find it, but it's obviously been located since. Rob Church ^Talk 11:44, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And, as an example of what a poor, unworthy source songfacts.com is, their article claims the film sequence was removed merely because Waters "felt" it didn't fit the narrative, with no mention of the time aspect. Waters actually "felt" the sequence simply didn't work, alone or otherwise, but time constraints was the greater consideration.

--Ben Culture (talk) 06:10, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As for the state of the article today, the description of the film sequence (a special feature on the DVD) is WAY too long and detailed, since about 80% of it wound up being worked into "Another Brick in the Wall, Part 3" and the ending of "The Trial". I don't think any description at all is necessary, and certainly not a blow-by-blow account. --Ben Culture (talk) 04:39, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Main Melody

I dont think that the solo is playing the main melody of Another Brick in the Wall but instead a unique piece that is later repeated on other parts of the album (The Trial, Waiting for the Worms)

Yes! I think that this should be mentioned, but we need a reference (I haven't found any about it). Anyway, the final section of the solo is quite diferent --200.118.131.102 22:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That riff is first heard in Another Brick in the Wall, Pt. 2.

What's this "I don't think" business? This isn't a matter of opinion. It is fact. You could learn to read sheet music and see for yourself. It simply IS the exact same melody, transposed from D to E (and A).

Musicologist Phil Rose wrote that it's actually FIRST heard in the intro to track one, "In The Flesh?", albeit in a stretched-out timing -- as D, E, and F power chords over a D pedal point in the bass. We could argue about whether that's a coincidence or an intended leitmotif, but in "Hey You", there's no argument -- it is the exact same timing as "[No] dark sarcasm in the classroom" and other lines. In the three "Brick" songs, there are variations in timing to fit the lyrics, but they are very minor variations.

After "Another Brick" is completely spent, the theme only comes back in E and A for the rest of the album, in the songs you mentioned.

Respectfully,

--Ben Culture (talk) 06:40, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Drill

Someone asked about citation for James Guthrie use of a drill on this song. The reference is Fitch's PF Encyclopedia which is listet as reference in the article. Floyd(Norway) 21:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a drill in the song. In Hey You (Pink Floyd song)#Composition, it says that after the bridge is a "reprise of the instrumental introduction augmented by prominent ARP Quadra riffs and a faintly audible sound of a drill." The key word is faint therefore meaning not prominent.--Kevjgav (talk) 07:07, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey you! Will you help me to carry the stone?

Does anyone know if this lyric is a reference to Dogs, off Animals? "Dragged down by the stone" etc. 86.136.41.178 (talk) 23:10, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, I think he means he's going to smash The Wall with it.--Editor510 ^{drop us a line, mate} 15:27, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I say yes! I think "the stone" is a recurring concept in Roger's lyrics . . . This stone, the "Dogs" stone, and even "The Crying Song"s stone ("We roll and roll / We roll and roll / Help me roll away the stone" -- pretty little tune from More), I think they're all more or less the same concept of burdens and responsibilities and emotional "baggage". Hmm. Or, maybe in "Dogs" it refers to a precious stone, such as a diamond or ruby, meaning wealth and all its trappings.

Great question! None of this, unfortunately, belongs in the article.

--Ben Culture (talk) 07:04, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ARGGGGGGH!!

THIS IS MELTING MY BRAIN! How the hell does the main riff from Waiting for the Worms sound like the riff from Another Brick?! I am so confused! DUN DUN DUN DUN does NOT sound like that! Can someone clear this up?!--Editor510 ^{drop us a line, mate} 15:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You just need to think about it a little more, maybe find a piano and mess with it yourself. D-E-F-E in "Another Brick", E-F#-G-F# in the others (as well as A-B-C-B). It really is the same intervals, the same timing (think of the line "Dark sarcasm in the classroom", as that one really conforms to the timing).

In "Waiting For The Worms", the riff is played more staccato (stopping a note sooner), and of course, at a slower tempo.

--Ben Culture (talk) 07:15, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Time signature

The bridge section appears to have a bit different time signature from the rest of the song. In the demo version, the drums on the bridge section is a bit messed up, as he appears to try to play it in the same time signature as the rest of the song. Haven't yet found any sources about this, though. 80.213.254.161 (talk) 14:00, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you think of this section as having a fast tempo ("But it was only" filling one whole measure), then it inserts a bar of 2/4 for "fan-ta-" before returning to 4/4 ("-sy"), and the next two lines behave the same.

However, if you think of it as having a slow tempo, then each of the first three lines begin with a bar of 3/4 ("But it was on-ly a fan-ta") before returning to 4/4 ("-sy"). And, of course "And the worms ate into his" would be a bar of 2/4 before returning to the intro theme in 4/4 ("brain").

You don't have to be a musician to understand this; it's just math and proportions.

The official sheet music book says "fast tempo", with the arpeggioes in eighth notes. But I have seen guitar-magazine transcriptions that say "slow tempo" and consider the arpeggioes to be sixteenth notes.

--Ben Culture (talk) 04:53, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Audience Incident

I seriously question the paragraph in the "Plot" section that talks about the incident with the audience member inspiring The Wall and particularly this song. The album lyrics are very clear that Pink's life experiences, starting with early childhood, led to his building a psychological wall to keep people at an emotional distance. Nor does the audience incident seem compatible with the fact that "no matter how he tried he could not break free". The whole paragraph comes across as one person's particular interpretation. Unless someone comes up with a solid reference backing up this theory, I'm deleting it. --12.106.209.61 (talk) 15:59, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And done. --12.106.209.61 (talk) 19:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Composition: Citation needed re: Who played the keyboards?

Rick Wright was fired by his unanimous bandmates, specifically because he refused to cut short his six-week vacation and come in to the studio to record keyboards. They were trying to finish the album ahead of deadline to get a $150,000 bonus. Keyboards were played by Bob Ezrin, David Gilmour, maybe Roger Waters as well, maybe others(?) Given this, I see no reason to assume Rick Wright appears on this or any particular Wall track. So when the article refers to the Fender Rhodes keyboard being "played by Wright", I had to add a Citation Needed tag. Which I hate doing. I would rather simply remove the "played by Wright".

The only source cited in this section is songfacts.com, which I say is not a reliable source, at all, for anything. It's a piece of shit, thrown-together site that shows no interest in getting its "facts" right, and only cares about having "content". I have seen error after error every time I visit the site (which I only do when it's cited as a source here on Wikipedia). Anyway, the songfacts page for this song makes no claim that Rick Wright played the keyboards. I don't know what it was cited for.

I can cite sources for the musical info and the stuff about the tuning and all, but somebody needs to cite a source if they want Wright credited with the electric piano.

--Ben Culture (talk) 07:31, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I have found a source who confirms Rick Wright has indeed played keyboards on Hey You, but I don't know how to put it in the article. can somebody help please?

http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/other-related-interviews/james-guthrie-interview-pink-floyd-the.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.82.69.25 (talk) 01:33, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Ben Culture-I don't see why that statement would have to be cited. Rick Wright was the band's keyboardist. And in Hey You (Pink Floyd song)#Personnel it says Wright played Fender Rhodes electric piano, Hammond organ and synthesizer and this information is cited.--Kevjgav (talk) 13:02, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ben Culture-I just added the reference to verify that Wright played the keyboards. I hope that was helpful.--Kevjgav (talk) 07:44, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Kevjgav Of course, it was helpful. Thank you! --Ben Culture (talk) 10:15, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Popular References

In the film The Quid and the Whale, the actor Jesse Eisenberg plays this song at a school talent show and presents it as his own original composition. The only person who recognizes that it's a Pink Floyd song is his father (Jeff Daniels)'s student/lover Anna Paquin. 2601:642:C401:72D0:1C79:D450:8C94:3D6A (talk) 03:39, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-81GUZH0hY — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:642:C401:72D0:1C79:D450:8C94:3D6A (talk) 03:40, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]