Talk:Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black)

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Suicide?

I think it's fairly commonly acknowledged that this song is about suicide, long before Cobain's suicide note, so it would be worth mentioning the context of the song. But I thought I'd doublecheck here that there were no problems with that, before I edit it in. It's better to burn out/Than to fade away is obvious, And once you're gone/you can never come back is the finality of suicide, and When you're out of the blue/and into the black. is going from being 'blue' (depressed), into 'black' (void, death). Anyways, any problem with putting this in context, why Cobain decided on this song as a building block to his suicide? Sherurcij ^{(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)} 03:31, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I had never seen it about suicide. More a hymn to the "live fast, die young" mentality (from Jimi Hendrix through Sid Vicious). -- Beardo 04:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Young wasn't suicidal, he was dealing with a rock and roll mid life crisis. "Not coming back" refers to being a "has been". - Steve3849 ^talk 15:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, not exactly about suicide, more about living-fast-dying-young. It's better to burn out/than to fade away mean he prefer die young doing something great than dying slowly at age 80 doing then nothing at all. So not exactly about suicide itself, but about death for sure, and that is related, not cause he hates life or something, just cause he couldn't handle living that fast til, example, 80. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.70.192.51 (talk) 16:52, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"My My, Hey Hey (Out Of The Blue)"

Should we see "Hey Hey, My My (Into The Black)" and "My My, Hey Hey (Out Of The Blue)" as two songs, or two versions of the same song ? -- Beardo 04:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good question, personally I'd be in favour of considering them a single song and having information about the 'rewrite' in this article :) Sherurcij ^{(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)} 15:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say it's two different songs but linked by the sense. I mean, they're both completing themselves. The lyrics are quit similar, however they reflect like they're on the dark side or not. Which is the thing about the under title, Into the Black or Out of the Blue. For me, there's two songs and they're like alter-egos. Furthermore, I don't think we should consider either Hey Hey, My My or My My, Hey Hey as the original one, and the other as a variation of it. Normally, in a hard rock song filled with a lot of distortion, the acoustic tranposition can sound good, still it looks like it's transposed. On those, my point is that I actually don't know if Neil wrote it initially either on acoustic or distortioned electric guitar. To end to novel, I'd say it's maybe a bit similar to Pink Floyd having several part, like Pigs on the Wing, which has the exact same guitar going one with different lyrics, or the Another bick in the walls, doesn't really have the same riff but it's similar and the vocal, also similar. Finally (yeah! you're near the end), more recently you can find out My Morning Jacket did two part of If you touch me i'm going to scream, they're two different songs but there's similarity. I hope I convinced you. Sorry for the novel, I had a lot to say. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.70.192.51 (talk) 16:43, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Be bold, friends. [[1]]. Bisect this article as you see fit. 65.87.168.11 20:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

there is so little in the article about my my, hey hey. it's almost all about hey hey, my my. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.49.6.225 (talk) 11:26, 19 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Elliott Smith"

On the song "Thirteen," by Elliott Smith on the album "New Moon," the line "Rock and roll is here to stay," is quoted. It would be nice to see another artist influenced by this brilliant song other than Kurt Cobain. Creepily, Elliott Smith was another talented singer/songwriter who comitted suicide at the young age of 34. Could someone add it, or is it okay if I do? posted 22:04, 25 November 2007 by 81.140.118.200

That's probably better put on the Elliot Smith article rather than this one. - Steve3849 ^talk 19:16, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Thirteen" is actually a cover, originally done by Big Star in 1972 which predates this song by 7 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.96.64 (talk) 12:36, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Origin" section in article

The article currently states that the origin of the song is born out of an association with Mark Mothersbaugh. Devo influence did not start showing itself in Young's music until Reactor (81) and Trans (82) Also, the obvious collaborative film with Mark Mothersbaugh, Human Highway, was released in 1982. The topic song of this article was recorded 1978. I doubt if the statement regarding the origin being related to Mark Mothersbaugh is accurate. Prove me wrong anyone? - Steve3849 ^talk 19:11, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Web searched some references and clarified the section in the article. - Steve3849 ^talk 21:17, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dubliners

In the following sentence:

A lyric from the song, "it's better to burn out than to fade away," (taken from Joyce's book Dubliners) became infamous in modern rock     
after being quoted in Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain's suicide note.

I removed the reference to Dubliners, as I do not think it is accurate, and a Google search returned nothing. If somebody can find such a line in the book itself, it can be re-added. The words had been added recently by an IP account. CopaceticThought (talk) 08:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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"Misquoted"

This edit wasn't explained so I'm reverting it. The quote is identical. Gendralman (talk) 16:12, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]