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The start of Hexagames

The start of Hexagames is apparently described in a German magazine, Fairplay #24 (Summer 1993), published shortly avfter Hexagames went out of business. I have only been able to find a third-hand precis someone wrote about the article, but they did quote about 200 words of the article: Apparently the founder, L. Hensley, was convicted of some sort of commodity futures trading, and during his seven months of incarceration, wrote a book and designed a game, Long Short; both were about commodity trading. Then Hensley met Jurgen Hagedorn, an advertising man, and the two of them found Hexagames in order to market Long Short. (https://www.fairplay-online.de/2007/05/die-hexagames-story.html in German)

If anyone can find a copy of that Fairplay magazine, it would help enormously.

That's all I've been able to discover so far. Guinness323 (talk) 07:37, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment

Source assessment
Source	Secondary?	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant?	GNG pass?	Comment
^[1]^[2]	No	Yes	Yes	No	No	German brand register; anything can be registered there, pretty reliable, but shouldn't indicate notability.
^[3]	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Well-known German boardgames magazine; don't get irritated by the "blog", it is not what Wikipedians think of as a blog.
^[4]^[5]^[6]	Yes	Yes	?	No	No	This qualifies as a blog; the website is run by an association of board gamers, so I'd argue that it's secondary; however, I think that the information is reliable enough. Nonetheless, it's just a basic "entry" / "list of entries".
^[7]	Yes	No	Yes	No	No	This is in French, but I suppose easy to assess; no significant coverage, and with ordering information present, not independent. However, this is from the 1980s, so not that big of a deal…
^[8]	Yes	Yes	?	No	No	A privately run website, unknown reliability, definitely no significance.
^[9]	Yes	No	Yes	No	No	This is in English, but I suppose easy to assess; no significant coverage, and with ordering information present, not independent. However, this is from the 1980s, so not that big of a deal…
^[10]	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Coverage on four pages in such a book indicates notability.
^[11]	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Coverage of a key aspect of the topic in a reasonable magazine indicates notability.
^[12]^[13]	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	Secondary, independent, and reliable, but no significant coverage.
^[14]	No	Yes	Yes	No	No	Spiel des Jahres is an award for board games, well known, but a primary source; now, the Dino game was not awarded that award, it was only nominated. Therefore, no significant coverage.
^[15]	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	Now, while this is not significant coverage in my opinion, it is definitely a noteworthy source.

@S0091: Thank you for bringing this to my attention! In total, this is a pass. The reason why I'm arguing this way despite only three GNG sources is the fact that none of the other sources are any bad. In total, most sources are reliable, and those that aren't independent are only not independent seen from a retrospective point of view. Also note that 12, 13, and 15 find the matter notable enough to mention it in a way that is better than "just a passing mention" (it's just not 100 per cent dedicated to Hexagames). So, after all, I'd recommend accepting the draft. Best regards, --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 11:55, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

^ "DPMAregister | Marken - Registerauskunft". register.dpma.de. Retrieved 2022-11-30.
^ "DPMAregister | Marken - Registerauskunft". register.dpma.de. Retrieved 2022-11-30.
^ "Die Hexagames-Story". www.fairplay-online.de. 2007-05-17. Retrieved 2022-11-30.
^ "Infos zu 'Hexagames / TST-Enterprises'". luding.org. Retrieved 2022-11-30.
^ "Infos zu Karrierepoker". luding.org. Retrieved 2022-11-30.
^ "Infos zu Osiris". luding.org. Retrieved 2022-11-30.
^ "Le Retoir de Seti". Jeux & Strategie (31): 13. February 1985 – via archive.org.
^ "Abacus Spiele". web.archive.org. 2010-10-23. Retrieved 2022-11-30.
^ Walker, Brian (October 1988). "McMulti". Games International (1): 13 – via archive.org.
^ Wittig, Reinhold (1988). Spielecollection No. 1 Spiele zur Schatzinsel. München Hugendubel. pp. 142–144. ISBN 9783880343559.
^ Rühle, Rudolf (2003). "Vom Luxus zum Dumping". Spielbox. 5: 40–41.
^ Gros, Pascal (April 1989). "L'originalité comme leimotiv". Jeux & Stratégie (57): 11 – via archive.org.
^ Depaulis, Thierry (December 1986). "Uisge". Jeux & Stratégie (42): 17 – via archive.org.
^ "Dino". Spiel des Jahres. Retrieved 2022-12-19.
^ Moon, Alan (December 1989). "Christmas Games". Games International (11): 12.

Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 11:55, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Johannes Maximilian oh wow! I really did not intend for you to spend the time to document a source assessment but appreciate it. I am also glad to hear in your opinion the draft passes GNG so great outcome! Pinging @Salem Ander for their awareness. S0091 (talk) 16:30, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[:0-1] "DPMAregister | Marken - Registerauskunft". register.dpma.de. Retrieved 2022-11-30.

[2] "DPMAregister | Marken - Registerauskunft". register.dpma.de. Retrieved 2022-11-30.

[3] "Die Hexagames-Story". www.fairplay-online.de. 2007-05-17. Retrieved 2022-11-30.

[4] "Infos zu 'Hexagames / TST-Enterprises'". luding.org. Retrieved 2022-11-30.

[5] "Infos zu Karrierepoker". luding.org. Retrieved 2022-11-30.

[6] "Infos zu Osiris". luding.org. Retrieved 2022-11-30.

[7] "Le Retoir de Seti". Jeux & Strategie (31): 13. February 1985 – via archive.org.

[:1-8] "Abacus Spiele". web.archive.org. 2010-10-23. Retrieved 2022-11-30.

[:2-9] Walker, Brian (October 1988). "McMulti". Games International (1): 13 – via archive.org.

[:3-10] Wittig, Reinhold (1988). Spielecollection No. 1 Spiele zur Schatzinsel. München Hugendubel. pp. 142–144. ISBN 9783880343559.

[11] Rühle, Rudolf (2003). "Vom Luxus zum Dumping". Spielbox. 5: 40–41.

[:4-12] Gros, Pascal (April 1989). "L'originalité comme leimotiv". Jeux & Stratégie (57): 11 – via archive.org.

[13] Depaulis, Thierry (December 1986). "Uisge". Jeux & Stratégie (42): 17 – via archive.org.

[14] "Dino". Spiel des Jahres. Retrieved 2022-12-19.

[15] Moon, Alan (December 1989). "Christmas Games". Games International (11): 12.

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