Talk:Hervey de Stanton

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The Dictionary of National Biography has him as Hervey de Staunton of Staunton. Any view on whether Staunton or Stanton is nearer the mark?

I would propose to replace the text of the present stub with the 1st edition DNB entry:

Hervey de Staunton (died 1327) was an English judge, Chief Justice of the King’s Bench and Chancellor of the Exchequer.

Origins and early career

He was son of Sir William de Staunton of Staunton, Nottinghamshire, by Athelina, daughter and coheiress of John de Masters of Bosingham, Lincolnshire. He seems to have held the living of Soham, Norfolk, as early as 1289; afterwards he held the livings of Thurston and Werbeton, and about 1306, on being ordained priest, received the living of East Derham. In November 1300 there is mention of him as going to the court of Rome.

Judicial advancement

He was a justice itinerant in Cornwall in 1302 and in Durham in 1303. In the parliament of September 1305 he was a receiver of petitions from Ireland and Guernsey, and on 20 April 1306 was appointed one of the judges of the common pleas. On the accession of Edward II, Staunton was reappointed to the common pleas, and is frequently mentioned in judicial commissions.

Chancellor of the Exchequer and Chief Justice

On 28 September 1314 he was appointed one of the barons of the exchequer, and on 22 June 1316 Chancellor of the Exchequer, but continued to act as a judge, and was regularly summoned to parliament with the other judges. In 1323 he was made chief justice of the king's bench, and directed to discharge his duties at the exchequer by a substitute. On 27 March 1324 Staunton resigned the chief justiceship, and on 26 March was reappointed chancellor of the exchequer. He resigned the latter post on 18 July 1326, when he was appointed Chief Justice of the Common Pleas. Staunton seems to have sided with Edward II, and in September Queen Isabella seized eight hundred marks which he had deposited at Bury St. Edmunds. He was not reappointed on the accession of Edward III, and the proceedings of an iter he had held at London were reversed.

Foundation of Michaelhouse

As prebend of Husthwaite, York, and parson of East Derham, he is mentioned as receiving protection on 30 January and 11 February 1327. On 2 March he had license to alienate in mortmain the manor and advowson of Barenton to the masters and scholars of St. Michael, Cambridge. Staunton died in 1327, before he could give effect to his foundation, and the license was renewed to his executors. He was buried in the church of St. Michael, Cambridge. His foundation of Michael House was eventually absorbed in Trinity College, where Staunton is still commemorated as a benefactor and a memorial chapel survives.

This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain: "Staunton, Hervey de". Dictionary of National Biography. London: Smith, Elder & Co. 1885–1900.

45ossington 14:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Birth date

According to FamilySearch's records of William de Staunton and Athelina de Musters/Masters, they were respectively born about 1163 and 1167 — almost 100 years before Hervey! It seems to me that Hervey was instead the son of William's grandson William and his wife Isabel de Kirketon/Kirkton/Werton, who were born about the right time to be Hervey's parents. If anyone else can speak authoritatively on this matter, please chime in. -JohnAlbertRigali (talk) 01:52, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A very good point: I have tweaked the entry pending the receipt of reliable better particulars. Some further information (but not, I think, the answer) is to be found at [1]. 45ossington (talk) 13:02, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Should we perhaps identify his birth date as "c.1260" (as per |Oxford Dictionary of National Biography)? Is there any source that enables one to identify 1260 as the specific year of Stanton's birth? 45ossington (talk) 06:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I like that proposal. Also, I scoured the Staunton section of the Nottinghamshire history web site. It seems to me that Hervey should be mentioned on this page, but he is not. The Staunton section seems focused on the succession of inheritance of the Staunton fortune and estates, into which Hervey didn't prominently figure. -JohnAlbertRigali (talk) 01:03, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]