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Daring "raid on Péraltes camp" ?

Hanneken used deception and betrayal to have Charlemagne Massena Péralte murdered., Péralte was the leader of the Haitian resistance fighters during the U.S. occupation starting in 1915. This article gives a very lopsided view of Herman H. Hanneken, who by many is regarded as a man without valor and not worthy of any honors. 14:49, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Hanneken formed a plan with a Gendarmerie lieutenant to identify Peralte. The lieutenant pretended to defect, presenting Peralte with a pearl-handled pistol Hanneken was known to wear. Peralte wore the pistol as a trophy. Hanneken infiltrated Peralte's camp, identified him by that pistol, and shot him.
Thus, the "betrayal" was in the nature of an undercover operation, and Peralte was undone by his own vanity. No hero he. As for Hanneken's alleged lack of valor, you wisely choose to voice this opinion well after his death. Certainly you would not do so twice in the presence of any United States Marine. 64.70.54.15 (talk) 05:13, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NO CONFIDENCE IN THIS ARTICLE: "Deed of valor," unless (or even if) a term of military art, is inappropriate

Certainly Hanneken's assassination of Peralte technically occurred in a military context - one of militarily-forced colonialism. The contemporary Haitian reaction to Peralte's death makes clear that less than a majority of objective observers would characterize Hanneken's act as a "deed of valor." As it stands, this article merits NO CONFIDENCE and diminishes a reputed branch of the United States military. 24.44.137.5 (talk) 05:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]