Talk:Herbert Haxton

A fact from Herbert Haxton appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 10 February 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that surgeon Herbert Haxton proved that the kneecap was not just to protect the knee but also important for straightening the leg?

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 06:45, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... ~~that surgeon Herbert Haxton was the first to demonstrate that the patella was not just to protect the knee but also important for straightening the leg.[1]?~~

Reviewed: Anableps anableps

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 17:05, 31 January 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Will pick this review up shortly. Ktin (talk) 23:11, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria (newness, length). Article is well sourced. Tone of the article is neutral and has no issues. Article scores a tad high ~40% on Earwig's copyvio check. However, most of the terms are medical terms, and or terms that are referenced as is. Will request the editor to check this once again in good faith. Hook has been sourced to a physical book, and Google books has some preview pages. Seems to be rightly sourced. But, will WP:AGF for accuracy. Hook is reasonably interesting. Question to nominator: Any reason why the lede has the Patella called out as kneecap in the lede but not in the body of the article? It will be good to link the two. Similarly, my thinking is that adding kneecap to the DYK hook might make it understandable for the common layperson. Let me know of your thoughts. QPQ is done. Approving ALT 2.2 per discussion below. Ktin (talk) 23:23, 31 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Ktin:... changed to kneecap... It's in the Bedi reference, but have added the original article. Not sure about "first" but how is this?

ALT1... that the importance of the kneecap was only partially understood before surgeon Herbert Haxton showed that it not only protected the knee but is important for straightening the leg? Whispyhistory (talk) 18:54, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If nobody had shown that before, then he was the first wasn't he? Philafrenzy (talk) 19:20, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2... that surgeon Herbert Haxton was the first to demonstrate that the kneecap was not just to protect the knee but also important for straightening the leg? Whispyhistory (talk) 19:54, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks much. I was thinking this one through last night, and was wondering if we should drop the word "first," unless there is an explicit source that says so. In looking at your hooks, I think ALT2 (sans 'first') would be great to go.

ALT2.1... that surgeon Herbert Haxton demonstrated that the kneecap was not just to protect the knee but also important for straightening the leg? Ktin (talk) 20:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks...how about

ALT2.2... that surgeon Herbert Haxton proved that the kneecap was not just to protect the knee but also important for straightening the leg? Whispyhistory (talk) 05:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Looks good. Approving ALT2.2 Nicely done. Ktin (talk) 07:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]