Talk:Herbert H. Lehman

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The statement about Herbert H. Lehman being a founder of Lehman Bros. in 1908 cannot possibly be true since Lehman Bros was founded in 1850 - long before Herbert Lehman was born (in Montgomery, Alabama).

supra: The sentence correctly refers to his father Mayer as one of the founders.207.237.227.72 14:49, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

image is pixelated

Anyway to tweak the image size in the infobox? Its being pixelated. Thanks. DavidRF (talk) 18:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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WP: Libel

• The Baby Thief: The Untold Story of Georgia Tann, the Baby Seller Who Corrupted Adoption does not cite a reliable source for its claim that Herbert H. Lehman adopted through the Tennessee Children's Home Society. Specifically, the book cites an obscure unsourced article from decades after Lehman's death - an article that gets Lehman's name wrong, for that matter:

By the mid-Forties the Memphis branch of the TCHS [Tennessee Children’s Home Society] was one of the best-known child placement agencies in America. Prominent individuals such as New York Senator Herbert Lehmann [sic] and film stars like June Allyson and Joan Crawford adopted children through the TCHS.

Neill, Kenneth. “Adoption for Profit: Conspiracy and Cover-up [Part I].” Memphis Magazine 3(7). October 1978. 39.

• The Knoxfocus link is not a reliable source. The linked page specifically states "The opinions expressed by Focus columnists and those providing comments are theirs alone, and may not reflect the opinions of The Knoxville Focus or any employee thereof."

• http://nyadoptionequality.com is not a reliable source.

To claim, without evidence, that the Lehmans adopted children through a black market adoption operation is libelous. Per WP:LIBEL, it is being removed.

The libelous conspiracy theory gets basic facts wrong. For example, the version laid out in the article claimed “Lehman signed a law sealing birth certificates from New York adoptees in 1935.” In fact, the law was from 1936, and did not seal them from adoptees but rather from the entire public:

“New York, which may have been the first or one of the first states to close original birth records to adult adoptees, as well as to other parties and the public […] sealed original birth records in 1936. […] The birth records law specified that when a new birth record has been made, ‘[t]he commissioner of health shall place the original birth record and the proof, notification and papers pertaining to the new birth record under seal. Seals shall not be broken except by order of a court ….' 1936 N.Y. Laws 854.

Samuels, Elizabeth. “The Idea of Adoption: An Inquiry Into the History of Adult Adoptee Access to Birth Records.” 53 Rutgers L. Rev. 367 (Winter 2001), at n. 8.

Professional genealogist Jarrett Ross ( https://www.apgen.org/directory/search_detail.html?mbr_id=8459 ) rather thoroughly addressed this conspiracy theory in a vlog, though as a YouTube video it may or may not meet WP standards as a source:

Ross, Jarrett. “Why New York Barred Adoptees From Their Birth Certificates for 80 Years (VLOG #42).” YouTube, uploaded by GeneaVlogger, 19 January 2020, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdqDIsmco0Y

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