Talk:Henry Hook (VC)

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A stub? What exactly do you consider is missing? Average Earthman 21:59, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on your talk page. UnDeadGoat 15:20, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The quote from Hook's own account is surely overlong, could it not be moved to Wikisource? PatGallacher (talk) 01:08, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In S. M. Stirling's "On the Oceans of Eternity" there's a personage Private Kyle Hook - a malingerer turned hero. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.69.57.33 (talk) 08:01, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I hope nobody minds but I have attempted to clean up and clarify the background section. I believe it now reflects the continued military and South African connections of the extended family better. I am loathe to lose the quote because it would then be gone but does it add anything? In fact, I am not sure it is a good quote given the continued deployment of UK Armed Forces. But I recognise that it maybe taken out of context and I do not want to be unfair to Mr Hook, therefore think it needs a citation ie from a discussion about the Empire or military service etc. prepared to be wrong and happy to discuss. I have also dropped the Mark Smith to a separate paragraph as it is delineates better from the extended family comments. I moved the popular culture reference to under the citation and description of events so as not to detract from his actions. Added reference to the back up his good conduct.

Unacknowledged Discrepancies:A contradiction between the actual events prior to and at the battle of Rorke’s Drift and the 1959 movie was Private Henry Hook. The actual individual was allegedly “a teetotaler” and a “lay preacher”, as opposed to his portrayal in the movie as a “barrack’s room lawyer” and a “drinker”. It is not uncommon they the survivors of the deceased, namely nieces and daughters, to sanitize the record of the deceased. He served with the Monmouth Militia for five years before enlisting in the regular army for three years with allegedly good conduct, but all this time not one advancement. If Henry Hook’s conduct was so good, why had he not been advanced to corporal by the time of the battle of Rorke’s Drift? Why did his wife leave him? User:cn7614929 6:25 15 November, 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.38.212.201 (talk)

Dates of service

Retired from the regular army in June 1880, but later served 20 years in 1st Volunteer Battalion, Royal Fusiliers... But then: After his 1880 discharge he was found the position of Inside Duster at the British Museum thanks to the intervention of Gonville Bromhead, Lord Chelmsford and the Prince of Wales. He was subsequently promoted to take charge of readers umbrellas, before resigning due to ill health in 1904. Can you clarify? Valetude (talk) 11:59, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It just means that, as a civilian, Hook still served at weekends with a part-time Volunteer reserve battalion, in which his experience and his exceptional decoration probably made him a valued instructor. Oddly enough, Sir Michael Caine (under his real name as 22486574 Fusilier Micklewhite, MJ) served with the regular 1st Battalion of the same regiment, Royal Fusiliers (City of London Regiment), in Korea. (By then, 1st Volunteer Battalion was known as 8th Battalion.) Caine's company commander, Major Mike Chard, was the great-nephew of John Chard VC, hero of Rorke's Drift, as played by Stanley Baker in Zulu opposite Caine as Lt Bromhead and James Booth as a fictionalised Harry Hook. Khamba Tendal (talk) 16:58, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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