Talk:Henri Frenay

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I changed the sentence that began "At first the conservative, Catholic and patriotic Frenay supported the Vichy Regime but was soon disillusioned by the Nazi tendency of the Pétain regime,..." to remove the words "conservative, Catholic and patriotic." Frenay's memoir states that the area he grew up in was conservative, and that his family was conservative, but in many passages in the memoir Frenay intentionally distinguishes himself from the conservative attitude of his family and region. Specifically, he mentions his pre-war friendships with liberals, his non-conservative opinions that clashed with those of his family and region, and his mother's suspicions (based on his pre-war leanings and activities) that he had become involved in a group of communists, when in fact he was involved in a covert anti-Nazi resistance group that did not subscribe to any more specific political ideology. Frenay in couple of places specifically states his disgust with the pre-war status quo in France, and his idealistic dream of one-world government or cooperation (that is, and especially at the time of WWII was, more characteristic of communist ideologies than conservative, nationalistic or fascist ones).

Besides inaccuracies vis-a-vis Henri Frenay and his own characterization of himself in his memoir, the way the sentence was written before I changed it made it sound as if being conservative, Catholic or patriotic behooved one to support Vichy and Petain. This is too much of an editorializing tone for Wikipedia. In fact, it's well-known that critics of Vichy and Petain-- including the earliest critics-- came from a variety of ideologies, including conservative, patriotic, and Catholic ones.

173.3.104.127 (talk) 12:05, 1 May 2009 (UTC)Swan[reply]

CNR Membership

Wow, and it only took 66 years! In truth, he refused a seat on the CNR due to a disagreement over whether it should include political parties. Combat was instead represented by Claude Bourdet. CITATION "Soldiers of the Night" Schoenbrun. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willoughby78 (talk • contribs) 07:18, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Portrait of Henri Frenay, head and shoulders ppmsca.13371 edit.jpg to appear as POTD soon

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Portrait of Henri Frenay, head and shoulders ppmsca.13371 edit.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on September 23, 2016. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2016-09-23. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:27, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Henri Frenay (1905–1988) was a French military officer and French Resistance member. Born in Lyon, Frenay joined the Army and reached the rank of captain in 1934. In World War II, after being captured by and escaping Nazi German forces, he formed the French Resistance group Mouvement de Libération Nationale. Before the end of the war, Frenay edited underground newspapers, helped establish the Combat group, and participated in the forming of the Conseil National de la Résistance.Photograph: Maurice Frink/Psychological Warfare Branch; restoration: Christoph Braun

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Cheese-eating surrender monkey

My word he was — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.198.58.150 (talk) 14:53, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]